Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law

[sandra L]

We do not know the gun was placed in any pocket. 

Barry George went home that day and changed.

We do not know what he was wearing and it was over a year later before he was arrested, plenty of time to dispose of any clothing worn and indeed a gun

"We do not know that the gun was placed in any pocket"... yet that was where the only single particle of gunshot residue was "found."

"Barry George went home that day and changed. ...We do not know what he was wearing"

So which is it? We don't know what he was wearing, therefore we can't possibly claim he went home and changed, or we do know what he was wearing and...

For completion - over a year to dispose of everything, yet he somehow managed to leave evidence of gunshot residue in a pocket of something he may or may not have worn on the day of the murder?

[Steve_uk]

"We do not know that the gun was placed in any pocket"... yet that was where the only single particle of gunshot residue was "found."

"Barry George went home that day and changed. ...We do not know what he was wearing"

So which is it? We don't know what he was wearing, therefore we can't possibly claim he went home and changed, or we do know what he was wearing and...

For completion - over a year to dispose of everything, yet he somehow managed to leave evidence of gunshot residue in a pocket of something he may or may not have worn on the day of the murder?

But there was a fibre of his from a pair of C&A trousers which had fallen on Jill Dando's coat. The CCTV footage indicated that Jill wasn't followed from Hammersmith so this had to be a random act. One witness noticed a man hanging around Gowan Avenue pretending to wipe a car windscreen. It had to be Barry George in my opinion; he fit the psychological profile of a loner, he was obsessed with women and was a menace to them and he had no alibi to speak of.

[Stephanie]

But there was a fibre of his from a pair of C&A trousers which had fallen on Jill Dando's coat. The CCTV footage indicated that Jill wasn't followed from Hammersmith so this had to be a random act. One witness noticed a man hanging around Gowan Avenue pretending to wipe a car windscreen. It had to be Barry George in my opinion; he fit the psychological profile of a loner, he was obsessed with women and was a menace to them and he had no alibi to speak of.

I agree Steve. 

The description given by eye witnesses described Barry George, though he refused to take part in an ID parade.

[nugnug]

Course it is because it doesn't support your argument. Maybe you should look at those people with dyspraxia and AD and a history of sex attacks on others.

And hasn't Michelle Diskin confirmed to the media they were exposed to domestic violence growing up?

other than disvility prujedece have you got that constitutes evdence.

grounds to face thats a bit of a joke isnt.


becouse at the moment your just showing what an ignront bigot you are.

[nugnug]

and as for those links from the daily mirror i suggest you read this.

https://t.co/MihZnCM2e6

as you can see the seteled out of court apolgised and admited the storys were false.

[nugnug]

here we are theres more to come https://t.co/cLm4Gk08q5

https://t.co/UzmxgZXsvN

[Steve_uk]

This is quite a good listen.  https://youtu.be/2VAhmBOlKq4

[sandra L]

Dr Treadwell offers a reasonable and balanced approach, I thought.

But there was a fibre of his from a pair of C&A trousers which had fallen on Jill Dando's coat

I don't believe that can be claimed absolutely. Any C&A trousers (and, indeed, any article of clothing) made from the same fabric would shed identical fibres. The fact that Barry George had a pair of trousers that matched a fibre found on Jill Dando's coat isn't really evidence of anything - that fibre could have come from any number of garments.

The other thing that's worrying about this case (which didn't come out until recently (2015, I believe) were the death threats received by Jill Dando, Alice Beer and Anne Robinson, just weeks before the murder and the threats to Alice Beer and Anne Robinson just after the shooting. Why were those never investigated? Police didn't even bother to take a statement. Was it just coincidence that someone threatens to kill three well known celebrities, and a few weeks later, someone actually kills one of those celebrities?

The initial threats were made in hand written letters. It would have been open to police at the time to check the handwriting - would it have borne any resemblance to Barry George's writing? We'll probably never know now.

Why, also, did they ignore the advice of a clinical psychologist (brought in by investigating officers themselves) to check for any "suspicious communications" Jill Dando might have received?

There's also the claim that a man with a "mid European" accent called the BBC and claimed responsibility. For what reason were the police "sceptical" about this? At that time, they had pretty much nothing to go on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/secret-papers-reveal-shock-and-panic-that-swept-bbc-after-dandos-murder-1707904.html

[nugnug]

are we talking about the kosovo letter the police know that wasnt barry geordge theyve never sugested it was.

[lookout]

Sadly,Jill died as a result of a programme that was to have been aired on the " gangs " of paedophiles/criminals that blight society. Someone didn't like what was to have been broadcast and as David Wilson had said,a " Mr Big " was hired to " shut the poor woman up " with a single shot to the head---which only a contracted killer would have achieved.
A week prior to the murder,Jill and also Alice Beer had received threats of " rape and murder " which seemingly went unnoticed ?

It was easy for police to focus on a " crank " neighbour,job done,and so a frenzy was whipped-up to lay blame on a man who,to the police,bore all the hallmarks of a " killer "even down to the last fibre of clothing.
Lack of compensation to this poor individual will be due to the fact that nobody will ever admit that they got the wrong man,because compensation equals admission !
Has Barry George been silenced/gagged ? I ask because with him living in Ireland,against his will,it would seem so to me.

What utter nonsense to blame this man for murder,when it's plain to see that his " pie in the sky " ideas of wanting to become a papparazi could only come from someone who dreams of becoming someone to be recognised.Next thing------a brain surgeon ? Sorry to be blunt but the man's as daft as a brush----in the nicest possible way.
Stefan Kiszko had been another easy target. I find it extremely unpalatable when those with learning difficulties are blamed for such crimes,particularly murder. It disgusts me.   

[sandra L]

An earlier post asked

How can Barry George be described as a 'vulnerable loner' when he has form?

It's common knowledge that vulnerable people with learning difficulties, mental illness, etc are the easiest targets for so-called investigations that are aiming for a conviction at any cost.

lookout asked

Has Barry George been silenced/gagged ? I ask because with him living in Ireland,against his will, it would seem so to me

When a conviction is overturned, especially when police investigators are insistent they "got the right man," the exonerated person will sometimes find themselves the target of endless (and unjustified) police surveillance and harassment. It becomes impossible for that person to live any sort of "normal" life.

When they are looking through the lens of constant suspicion, everything they see is coloured by a suspicious slant - something as innocent as talking to people in the street can become an excuse for a trip to the police station for questioning.

Not only is this targeting and on-going harassment of vulnerable people disgusting, it is dangerous for society as a whole - while our police are fixated on this sort of thing, dangerous criminals are literally getting away with murder.

[lookout]

An earlier post asked
It's common knowledge that vulnerable people with learning difficulties, mental illness, etc are the easiest targets for so-called investigations that are aiming for a conviction at any cost.

lookout asked
When a conviction is overturned, especially when police investigators are insistent they "got the right man," the exonerated person will sometimes find themselves the target of endless (and unjustified) police surveillance and harassment. It becomes impossible for that person to live any sort of "normal" life.

When they are looking through the lens of constant suspicion, everything they see is coloured by a suspicious slant - something as innocent as talking to people in the street can become an excuse for a trip to the police station for questioning.

Not only is this targeting and on-going harassment of vulnerable people disgusting, it is dangerous for society as a whole - while our police are fixated on this sort of thing, dangerous criminals are literally getting away with murder.

Similar is happening to Eddie Gilfoyle,who is still on " licence " since 2010,after having been released with a gagging order in place. Again,Merseyside police will not admit to their mistakes in this investigation,nor will he ever feel free until they do so which affects not only Eddie and his family but also the general public,particularly those who believe the law/justice is always right.

I knew Eddie and his late wife in a professional capacity so it was easy for me,personally to pass judgement on both and also because I'd known,personally, of one of his late wife's boyfriend's.
Eddie was/is no murderer.

[Stephanie]

Similar is happening to Eddie Gilfoyle,who is still on " licence " since 2010,after having been released with a gagging order in place. Again,Merseyside police will not admit to their mistakes in this investigation,nor will he ever feel free until they do so which affects not only Eddie and his family but also the general public,particularly those who believe the law/justice is always right.

I knew Eddie and his late wife in a professional capacity so it was easy for me,personally to pass judgement on both and also because I'd known,personally, of one of his late wife's boyfriend's.
Eddie was/is no murderer.

Welcome back Lookout.

Maybe now you are here and given your above post re Eddie Gilfoyle, you'll be good enough to explain to nugnug and Sandra about the SH confession.

[lookout]

What makes you think that I know anything about SH's confession ? I don't !

[Caroline]

Sadly,Jill died as a result of a programme that was to have been aired on the " gangs " of paedophiles/criminals that blight society. Someone didn't like what was to have been broadcast and as David Wilson had said,a " Mr Big " was hired to " shut the poor woman up " with a single shot to the head---which only a contracted killer would have achieved.
A week prior to the murder,Jill and also Alice Beer had received threats of " rape and murder " which seemingly went unnoticed ?

It was easy for police to focus on a " crank " neighbour,job done,and so a frenzy was whipped-up to lay blame on a man who,to the police,bore all the hallmarks of a " killer "even down to the last fibre of clothing.
Lack of compensation to this poor individual will be due to the fact that nobody will ever admit that they got the wrong man,because compensation equals admission !
Has Barry George been silenced/gagged ? I ask because with him living in Ireland,against his will,it would seem so to me.

What utter nonsense to blame this man for murder,when it's plain to see that his " pie in the sky " ideas of wanting to become a papparazi could only come from someone who dreams of becoming someone to be recognised.Next thing------a brain surgeon ? Sorry to be blunt but the man's as daft as a brush----in the nicest possible way.
Stefan Kiszko had been another easy target. I find it extremely unpalatable when those with learning difficulties are blamed for such crimes,particularly murder. It disgusts me.

I don't believe that BG killed SD but I'm not sure I would agree with David Wilson either. If the programme had already been made and SD was just the presenter, I don't why she would be the target?