gresham school sex abuse allegation.

[Adam]

This is a unique case.

There are hundreds of pieces of forensic evidence that show Sheila did not comitt the massacre. So what ? That means it could be anyone else, right ?  Wrong. The uniqueness  of this case is that everything that shows it was not Sheila, means it was Bamber.

[David1819]

There are hundreds of pieces of forensic evidence that show Sheila did not comitt the massacre.

Wrong.

[Steve_uk]

Wrong.

There's no gun oil on her nightdress. That can be number 1.

[David1819]

There's no gun oil on her nightdress. That can be number 1.

No one is suggesting the perpetrator had to clean the weapon that night. so no it cant be number 1. any other ideas?

[lookout]

There were traces of lead on her hand/s,which had been put down to " kitchen utensils ".Nice to think that pots,pans etc. could be responsible for lead-poisoning.

[nugnug]

She could have contacted him or it could have been the Housemaster(whose name I forget) or the Headmaster Logie Bruce-Lockhart.

if a boy was abused while he was headmaster and he knew about it and took no action it would be sean as a gross derliction of his dutys so if it did happen i very much doubt he would want to mention it so i douvt if hes the source.

[Jane]

if a boy was abused while he was headmaster and he knew about it and took no action it would be sean as a gross derliction of his dutys so if it did happen i very much doubt he would want to mention it so i douvt if hes the source.

Part of me wonders why so much is being made of this alleged incident. Such things appear to be 'rites of passage' for some, in (boarding) schools world wide. Why did the Headmaster do nothing about it? We don't 'know' that there was anything to do something about and if there was it's unlikely, unless it was endemic and/or reported at the time, that the Headmaster ever got to hear of it.

Examining what Jeremy was like at the time, I think we're certainly likely to find the proverbial "fish out of water". From stories told of him during his time at Maldon Court, his prep school, he was said to be the scourge of the school bus, a regular and spiteful bully. If these stories are true, we see a Jeremy who was confident enough to feel he could get away with such behaviours. It's sad, if not cruel, that boarding school coincided with him learning of his adoption. It may have made him feel that he was a secret which couldn't be shared. I believe it would have changed him from a child who felt powerful and confident enough to bully others into one who was ripe for being bullied and I can only imagine the anger he must have felt at being rendered so powerless and helpless. It's unsurprising, then, that later in his school career, he once again gained the reputation of being a bully. I find it telling -and not a little disturbing- that few -ANY- of his peer group has come forward to speak about jolly times they enjoyed with him when they were children. Surely, had he been popular, they'd have fought tooth and nail to support and defend him?

[lookout]

Part of me wonders why so much is being made of this alleged incident. Such things appear to be 'rites of passage' for some, in (boarding) schools world wide. Why did the Headmaster do nothing about it? We don't 'know' that there was anything to do something about and if there was it's unlikely, unless it was endemic and/or reported at the time, that the Headmaster ever got to hear of it.

Examining what Jeremy was like at the time, I think we're certainly likely to find the proverbial "fish out of water". From stories told of him during his time at Maldon Court, his prep school, he was said to be the scourge of the school bus, a regular and spiteful bully. If these stories are true, we see a Jeremy who was confident enough to feel he could get away with such behaviours. It's sad, if not cruel, that boarding school coincided with him learning of his adoption. It may have made him feel that he was a secret which couldn't be shared. I believe it would have changed him from a child who felt powerful and confident enough to bully others into one who was ripe for being bullied and I can only imagine the anger he must have felt at being rendered so powerless and helpless. It's unsurprising, then, that later in his school career, he once again gained the reputation of being a bully. I find it telling -and not a little disturbing- that few -ANY- of his peer group has come forward to speak about jolly times they enjoyed with him when they were children. Surely, had he been popular, they'd have fought tooth and nail to support and defend him?

Quite the reverse on the school bus as it was HE who was being bullied for the way he spoke-----and it was his sister who then put the bullies in their place by protecting her brother.
It doesn't surprise me that these " tales " have a habit of being reversed.

[Jane]

Quite the reverse on the school bus as it was HE who was being bullied for the way he spoke-----and it was his sister who then put the bullies in their place by protecting her brother.
It doesn't surprise me that these " tales " have a habit of being reversed.

Not according to my paper at the time, Lookout. Besides which, there would have been others from Maldon Court on the same bus. They were unlikely to have been the only two speaking the way they did. It remains that there have been none willing to verify what you say by coming out in his defence. YOU aren't the only person in the kingdom who would fight tooth and nail -very loudly- to defend someone you believed innocent. Where are Jeremy's supporters from those days?

[lookout]

Not according to my paper at the time, Lookout. Besides which, there would have been others from Maldon Court on the same bus. They were unlikely to have been the only two speaking the way they did. It remains that there have been none willing to verify what you say by coming out in his defence. YOU aren't the only person in the kingdom who would fight tooth and nail -very loudly- to defend someone you believed innocent. Where are Jeremy's supporters from those days?

Sheila defended Jeremy quite often,as an older sister.She was the " tom-boy " out of the two of them,which you will usually find with girls.Their nature is to be protective of their younger siblings.
Again,this is from one of the books,Wilkes or Lomax---------take your pick.

[Jane]

Sheila defended Jeremy quite often,as an older sister.She was the " tom-boy " out of the two of them,which you will usually find with girls.Their nature is to be protective of their younger siblings.
Again,this is from one of the books,Wilkes or Lomax---------take your pick.

And of course, we must take the three year age gap into consideration. Sheila wouldn't have been at the same school for very long before she, too, was sent to boarding school. Lomax/Wilkes, Wilkes/Lomax? Hmm.

[lookout]

And of course, we must take the three year age gap into consideration. Sheila wouldn't have been at the same school for very long before she, too, was sent to boarding school. Lomax/Wilkes, Wilkes/Lomax? Hmm.

Obviously this was when both attended primary school,where both had been made to " feel different ". From there they were then whisked off to boarding school,where it was proved that Sheila had been the rebel out of the two of them,by leaving or expulsion.

[Jane]

Obviously this was when both attended primary school,where both had been made to " feel different ". From there they were then whisked off to boarding school,where it was proved that Sheila had been the rebel out of the two of them,by leaving or expulsion.

But none of that negates Jeremy's reputation -which appears to have followed him through his school career- as a bully. It does reveal that Sheila was able to vent her feelings whereas Jeremy seems to have internalized his.

[lookout]

But none of that negates Jeremy's reputation -which appears to have followed him through his school career- as a bully. It does reveal that Sheila was able to vent her feelings whereas Jeremy seems to have internalized his.

Well,it is said that the bullied becomes the bully,but I haven't seen any hard evidence that he was a bully------------such as from those he allegedly bullied ?

[Jane]

Well,it is said that the bullied becomes the bully,but I haven't seen any hard evidence that he was a bully------------such as from those he allegedly bullied ?

I'm not certain what could be described as "hard evidence" in this instance. There can only be school day recollections from either side.