Sandra Leans book "No Smoke" should be re-vised or withdrawn

[nugnug]

I'm still awaiting an answer Sandra, unless you are using nugnug as your mouth piece once again?

You see my questions are also relevant in terms of your thesis and in turn your doctorate. I have many questions with regards both and will be taking them up further.

im still waiting for answer for you a very simple qustion.

[Stephanie]

how come your demanding answers of others but never answer qustions on the case yourself.

Stop projecting!

[Stephanie]

why has buddy got to answer qustions about his posts exactly what gives you the right cross examine other posters about everything the say and i might a qustion about why your changing the subject on a thread you started in the first place.

Why do you behave as though you are superior to others and why do you appear to have double standards when you post here.

[Stephanie]

Sandra Lean
author and researcher
2003 – Present (14 years)
"For ten years, I have researched and written about cases of wrongful conviction and factual innocence. I have tried to assist a number of people over the years, and campaign, write articles, etc, wherever I am able to help. I obtained a Specialist Paralegal Qualification in Criminal Law in 2010, via Criminal Law Training and Strathclyde University.

I completed a PhD in 2012, the thesis title being "Hidden in Plain View," which studied the factors which lead to wrongful convictions, and why ordinary people are completely unaware of these factors.

I am currently writing two further books, as follow-ups to my first book, "No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice" which was published by Checkpoint Press, Ireland in 2008.

In my "other life," I specialise in helping people with issues of low self esteem, confidence, and the effects of bullying.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-sandra-lean-4b499a43

I came to learn there are many wolves hiding in sheep's clothing and more often than not they are hidden in plain view.

This article is worth reading in terms of killers like bamber attempting to get away with the perfect murder?
http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk/features-7d512e48-01f8-4bba-9e6e-7ec3cbd85f19-ds

[nugnug]

i asked a simple question steph I'm not sure why so unwilling to answer capable  of giving an answer and surely the answer makes no difference to you you can shut with 1 answer.

[Stephanie]

Where did the discussion about benefit and benefit fraud go?

Am looking forward to seeing your synopsis on Gordon Park also.

[nugnug]

Stop projecting!

ive got no qustions to answer about this you have you were in chardge of the capaghn

my and budy are just posters in a forum.

[Stephanie]

I came to learn there are many wolves hiding in sheep's clothing and more often than not they are hidden in plain view.

This article is worth reading in terms of killers like bamber attempting to get away with the perfect murder?
http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk/features-7d512e48-01f8-4bba-9e6e-7ec3cbd85f19-ds

Dick Binsteads book is even better!

[guest7363]

ive got no qustions to answer about this you have you were in chardge of the capaghn

my and budy are just posters in a forum.

In fairness Buddy said he was not getting involved

[sandra L]

Shock, horror! A prosecutor doesn't like a book that criticises the justice system. You don't say!

[nugnug]

Shock, horror! A prosecutor doesn't like a book that criticises the justice system. You don't say!

why would he not like a book that critises the cps i cant fathem it.

[Stephanie]

why would not like a book that critises the cps i cant fathem it.

Maybe you should read his book as it seems you don't understand it's content

And what do you have to be angry about with the CPS? What did they do to you?

[sandra L]

Of the prosecutor who didn't like my book, Stephanie said:

No Sandra his criticisms are of you!

And? He's perfectly within his rights to say or think what he pleases, as long as it isn't defamatory. He is quoted as saying:

“Whatever merits Sandra Lean's book and her appraisal of the evidence in the Park case may have, they are, to my mind, completely eclipsed by her entrenched and overwhelming antagonism towards and her disdain for the way that the organs of the criminal justice system operate and conduct their affairs.”

I've never made any secret of my antagonism towards and disdain for the way some of the organs of the CJS abuse their powers, so nothing defamatory there. He's entitled to his opinion - I don't have to agree with him, or even care what his opinion is.

Just for completion, the book was not, as reported a "2015" book, it was a 2007/2008 book

[sandra L]

I'm many things, but a psychic isn't one of them - how could I have known in August 2012 that Simon Hall would confess in what some considered questionable circumstances 12 months later?

It's been claimed repeatedly that no apology was ever made to Kate's family - that clearly was not true.

[Stephanie]

And? He's perfectly within his rights to say or think what he pleases, as long as it isn't defamatory.

Just for completion, the book was not, as reported a "2015" book, it was a 2007/2008 book

George Skelly's Murderers and Martyrs was published before Simon Hall confessed

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CgW1Lx468ZMC&pg=PA462&lpg=PA462&dq=sandra+lean+miscarriages+of+justice+no+smoke&source=bl&ots=PHf7KLKMWm&sig=OJN8826e-FQbk2Lk4knPC3EfGQk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVyMvv4snRAhVBLMAKHcNCBs04ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=sandra%20lean%20miscarriages%20of%20justice%20no%20smoke&f=false

However, maybe you should speak to Mr Skelly of Simon Hall's confession, he seems like a man of reason.

As he points out in the following article, referring to Devlin and Burns:

“They suggested the men’s lawyers could have been in possession of the suppressed evidence I presented – if they had they would have been acquitted!

“This is nonsense. Why would they have fought so hard to save their clients and not used this information if they had had it.” http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-murders-investigated-author-george-3323765

Why would I have fought so hard and suddenly have stopped if Simon's confession were false.

I too would have fought like Mr Skelly (and the others referred to in this article) if I had any doubts. I didn't and I don't!

Why aren't Simon's previous legal teams speaking up; Campbell Malone, Michael Mansfield? Why aren't his family? What about his representative at the time of his confession, Dr Michael Naughton?

What did they know that you didn't?