Sandra Leans book "No Smoke" should be re-vised or withdrawn

[Stephanie]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

[nugnug]

assements like that are confidential the only people who are allowed to see them are powers of attorney that was you I belive.

so if people dident know this and were missled whos fault was that.

[Stephanie]

assements like that are confidential the only people who are allowed to see them are powers of attorney that was you I belive.

so if people dident know this and were missled whos fault was that.

You talk utter rubbish, though I suspect you know that and it's your intention.

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment report was released to his defence team at time of trial. The pre trial report made up his case files. Therefore all those people who read his case files had assess to his pre trial assessments.

During the Rough Justice documentary in 2007, students were seen discussing the findings of the report. They referred to previous drug taking.

[nugnug]

so you were fully aware of it and chose not to tell anybody

[Stephanie]

you dont have any choice in that the inqust will allways be done on the prusumption is guilty for the simple fact that his a prisoner.

You talk out of your backside!

If I had believed Simon Hall to be innocent I would have put this in my witness statement to HMC and insisted my legal team address the Inquest accordingly.

I would have also mentioned this when I gave live evidence. I didn't because he was guilty!

[nugnug]

You talk out of your backside!

If I had believed Simon Hall to be innocent I would have put this in my witness statement to HMC and insisted my legal team address the Inquest accordingly.

the inqusetb arnt intrested in guilt or innocence just the cause of death.

[Stephanie]

the inqusetb arnt intrested in guilt or innocence just the cause of death.

An Inquest establishes where, when, how and why a person died. IF he had been innocent or still maintaining innocence this would have formed part of the evidence heard during the inquest. It didn't because he was guilty and was planning a move to HMP Grendon.

His brother was an Interested Party, representing the Hall family. If they (Simon's parents and brother) had any concerns regarding the validity of his confession they had the opportunity to bring this to the attention of HMC and make representations. They chose to not make representations because they knew he was guilty!

Simon's parents and brother chose to not attend the Inquest. There actions or in-actions were duly noted by all who attended the Inquest.

[nugnug]

a corner is not going to prusme to overturn a jurys verdict.

[Stephanie]

a corner is not going to prusme to overturn a jurys verdict.

Why should they when there is no need!

[Stephanie]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

I'm still awaiting an answer Sandra, unless you are using nugnug as your mouth piece once again?

You see my questions are also relevant in terms of your thesis and in turn your doctorate. I have many questions with regards both and will be taking them up further.

[sandra L]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

I wrote a book about wrongful convictions, and the things that make them possible. If you'd like me to write a book about psychopathy and personality disorders, then I can do that. But let's not conflate the two.

[Stephanie]

I wrote a book about wrongful convictions, and the things that make them possible.

Your book should be re-vised, withdrawn or it's category changed to fiction.

[Stephanie]

The husband of murder victim Margaret Wilson was found hanging in a garden shed at his home in Burton Fleming in 2002.

In your book No smoke Chapter 2 pages 27/28

Sandra Lean writes:

"Letter from Mr John Townsend MP to K C Christian

Thank you for your letter of 22nd February 1999. Whilst I appreciate your feelings, as the brother of Derek Christian. It is very difficult for you to deal with this matter dispassionately. I very much believe in British Justice and I am afraid I cannot comment on the case, other than to say that the jury, according to your papers, brought in a unanimous verdict. They sat through and heard all the evidence, and were therefore in a much better position to come to a correct verdict than reading papers which have been produced by friends of the defendant.

With regards to your second request about Derek Christian's prison sentence, my view is that if he is not guilty, then he should not be in prison at all and clearly the judiciary thought the trial had been correct otherwise they would not have refused grounds for appeal, but if he is guilty, as you say it was a henious crime and I think in terms of imprisonment of 20 years is not excessive. Indeed, speaking generally, for the worse crimes I have consistently voted to bring back the death penalty.

I know my letter will be a disappointment to you but I am sure you will appreciate the position I take.

No Smoke - Chapter 2, page 26
Sandra Lean states:
"Derek Christian was a man of previously good character, with no psychological conditions or previous convictions"

But what Sandra fails to mention in her book is that Derek Christian had earned himself two spells in military detention following a series of unpleasant assaults against women.
Psychologists concluded that Derek Christian showed no signs of mental illness.

[Stephanie]

Gordon Park http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7892.msg374321.html#msg374321

"Vanessa Park (Now Fisher) has had to endure what must be the unique agony of having two mothers murdered by two fathers.

In 1969, when she was just a year old, her natural mother Christine Price, Carol Parks sister - was strangled in 1969 by her father John Rapson. She was swiftly adopted by Carol and Gordon but when she was eight her new mother disappeared. As we know now, she had been battered to death by her husband.

What cut deepest during the trial were submissions from Gordon Park's defence suggesting Rapson could have been the man who murdered Carol Park. http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/cumbria/567113.Lady_in_the_Lake___Tragedy_for_children/

[Stephanie]

"Park was convicted in 2005, the jury having accepted the prosecution case that he had killed her with an ice-axe before disposing of her body.

It was portrayed as an almost perfect murder.

Yet Park, found hanged in his prison cell in 2010, always continued to protest his innocence, supported by some of his family, including his third wife Jenny and his children Jeremy and Rachel.

Their cause was boosted by the publication last year of a book by Dr Sandra Lean called “No Smoke.”

She argued that Park was wrongly convicted. But Mr Binstead said the book left him so exasperated that he felt compelled to write his own account of the tragedy.

Described as full and frank”, Mr Binstead's book – A Very Cumbrian Murder – provides an exhaustive review of the evidence that convicted Park, pointing out that he was paid £50,000 by a national newspaper for an interview about the case.

Explaining his motivation, Mr Binstead said: “I had contemplated writing the book for some years because I had always been fascinated by the mysterious and unique case of Gordon Park.

“What finally provoked me into actually putting pen to paper was a 2015 book 'No Smoke!

The Shocking Truth About British Justice,' which singles out case in question and seeks to depict it as an example of flawed police investigation, a totally misconceived decision to prosecute it, and finally a wrongful decision by the jury to convict the accused.

“As I had been involved in the case as a prosecutor and was very familiar with the evidence on which the case was based, I strongly felt that I should redress the balance.”

Mr Binstead's book is fiercely critical of Dr Lean's book.

He states: “Whatever merits Sandra Lean's book and her appraisal of the evidence in the Park case may have, they are, to my mind, completely eclipsed by her entrenched and overwhelming antagonism towards and her disdain for the way that the organs of the criminal justice system operate and conduct their affairs.”

He concludes that the conviction remains “unshaken”, adding: “Carol's brother, her only surviving sibling at the time of her death, has also gone but at least he went to this grave with the satisfaction, if that is the right word, of knowing his sister's killer had been brought to justice.” The book is published by FastPrint Publishing. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/Former-prosecutor-publishes-book-backing-Lady-in-the-Lake-murder-conviction-5999268a-951e-413c-9ed6-9562fdc5819f-ds