Possible Staged Suicide

[Alias]

It just struck me that if Jeremy was the perpetrator, the choice to stage Sheila´s suicide in June and Nevill´s bedroom is a little off.
In my opinion, if you wanted it to look like a suicide, you would have staged it in either Sheila´s own room or with her boys.
Where Sheila was found actually contradicts that Jeremy is guilty, I think.

[shonapugs]

I must admit that if Sheila had killed the boys, I would have expected her to lie down beside them and kill herself there. Perhaps the fact that she didn't tells us something?

[Paul]

With reference to staging, and Ralphs location behind the kitchen door on a chair.

I assume the killer had to collect the gun from the settle. The killer then closes the kitchen door and goes about their task. How does Ralph get on the chair by the closed kitchen door? The chair must have been put there? But why?

Then how did Ralph, covered in blood get in the chair? Did the killer lift him there or did he collapse there? In which case, wasn't he lucky (or not) that he landed in that chair, rather than just collapsing on the floor?

[Roch]

With reference to staging, and Ralphs location behind the kitchen door on a chair.

I assume the killer had to collect the gun from the settle. The killer then closes the kitchen door and goes about their task. How does Ralph get on the chair by the closed kitchen door? The chair must have been put there? But why?

Then how did Ralph, covered in blood get in the chair? Did the killer lift him there or did he collapse there? In which case, wasn't he lucky (or not) that he landed in that chair, rather than just collapsing on the floor?

I wondered whether he collapsed exhausted in to the chair... his fight over.  It's very sad. 
The secrets that farmhouse holds.  It just wont give them up.  Maybe the negatives will shed some light on the sequence of events.

[Paul]

With reference to staging, and Ralphs location behind the kitchen door on a chair.

I assume the killer had to collect the gun from the settle. The killer then closes the kitchen door and goes about their task. How does Ralph get on the chair by the closed kitchen door? The chair must have been put there? But why?

Then how did Ralph, covered in blood get in the chair? Did the killer lift him there or did he collapse there? In which case, wasn't he lucky (or not) that he landed in that chair, rather than just collapsing on the floor?

I wondered whether he collapsed exhausted in to the chair... his fight over.  It's very sad. 
The secrets that farmhouse holds.  It just wont give them up.  Maybe the negatives will shed some light on the sequence of events.

Thanks for that Rochford. What I don't get is why the chair is behind the closed kitchen door. The killer had been through that door to get the gun and came back through that door, did they put the chair there as an obstacle to escape or was it put there as an afterthought. Either way, it wouldn't have conveniently just been there since it'd be in the way of the door.

[Roch]

With reference to staging, and Ralphs location behind the kitchen door on a chair.

I assume the killer had to collect the gun from the settle. The killer then closes the kitchen door and goes about their task. How does Ralph get on the chair by the closed kitchen door? The chair must have been put there? But why?

Then how did Ralph, covered in blood get in the chair? Did the killer lift him there or did he collapse there? In which case, wasn't he lucky (or not) that he landed in that chair, rather than just collapsing on the floor?

I wondered whether he collapsed exhausted in to the chair... his fight over.  It's very sad. 
The secrets that farmhouse holds.  It just wont give them up.  Maybe the negatives will shed some light on the sequence of events.

Thanks for that Rochford. What I don't get is why the chair is behind the closed kitchen door. The killer had been through that door to get the gun and came back through that door, did they put the chair there as an obstacle to escape or was it put there as an afterthought. Either way, it wouldn't have conveniently just been there since it'd be in the way of the door.

It is intriguing. I'm no expert on the lay out of the house. The plans are on here somewhere.

Think this has been asked before... I might be getting confused but is it relevant to the gun cupboard / silencer issue? Think that's been asked also.

[Hartley]

The chair in front of the door can only have been put there by the police. The other stair in the lobby where the settle is leads to the upstairs office but the door between the office and the rest of the house was bolted.

[bob]

It just struck me that if Jeremy was the perpetrator, the choice to stage Sheila´s suicide in June and Nevill´s bedroom is a little off.
In my opinion, if you wanted it to look like a suicide, you would have staged it in either Sheila´s own room or with her boys.
Where Sheila was found actually contradicts that Jeremy is guilty, I think.

I don't see how JB (if he did it) could have had much choice. If Sheila moved into her parents' room during the downstairs attack on Neville then presumably he just had to kill her where he found her?

[Paul]

Oddly enough, If I think about how best to stage the bodies, I wouldn't place Sheila back in her room as it wouldn't fit well with her having roamed the house, you would have to have her upstairs so that police couldn't see that she was already dead downstairs if they looked in the window (I know I know).

I wouldn't have left Sheila in the boys room either (simply because I think the killer picked them off first). So that narrows it down to an upstairs room for me, why choose the bedroom - I don't know but what is interesting to me is that Sheila's body was 'hidden' on the 'other' side of the bed from the door - anyone looking in the main door would only see June, not Sheila, until they had entered the room properly.