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The relatives and inheritance video:
« on: December 25, 2016, 01:36:PM »
This video spends a lot of time discussing which relative found the silencer. Which is not important.  The fact is it was found.

It then confirms that the jury at trial were told that the other relatives would be the beneficiaries of the estate, if Bamber was convicted. However "they were already rich in their own right and had no reason to lie".

It then mentions some land which Peter Eaton had apparently spoken to Neville about. Which PE was farming on and Nevill was planning to sell to property developers (apparently). 

The video does not state what discussions went on between Nevill and PE. Or whether Nevill still planned to sell the land to property developers.

The video does not say how much the land was worth or whether it would have a large or minimal impact on relatives who were already wealthy.

The video does not say whether Bamber was aware of Nevill's discussions over this land, or aware Nevill owned the land. It does not say if Bamber would want to sell the land or allow PE to continue farming on it.  PE and Bamber would not have spoken about this issue after the massacre.

It then mentions Julie's NOTW deal which was agreed a year after the massacre. But does not mention Bamber's NOTW deal or attempts to sell pictures of Sheila.

There is no possibility the relatives would frame an innocent man of killing 5 members of his own family for such a flimsy reason. To do so for strong reasons would still take extreme bravery, callousness and expertise.

Is there something being missed here. Or is it really being suggested that the relatives who were already wealthy,  framed an innocent man of killing 5 members of his own family. Over some land PE was farming on, which may or may not have been valuble, and may or may not have been sold to property developers in the future ?
« Last Edit: December 25, 2016, 07:05:PM by Adam »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance:
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 01:41:PM »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 03:10:PM »
Framing attempts are always attempted by the offender. This is what Bamber did with the caravan break in and massacre.

I can't think of any cases where innocent people would try to frame another innocent person. Which is what the relatives, police & Julie have been accused of.

At present the reason Bamber is accusing the relatives of framing him is absolutely disgraceful and he should be ashamed of himself. I can only think there is something missing. So will submit questions to be answered.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 03:27:PM »
Is there an independent source that Nevill owned land that PE was farming on ?

Is there an independent source that Nevill was planning to sell this land ?

Is there an independent source that Nevill and Peter Eaton were discussing this land ?

How much was this land worth to Peter Eaton's business ? Source appreciated.

Was Bamber aware of this land and Nevill's plans prior to his conviction ? Source appreciated.

If Bamber was aware of the above, is it agreed that there would have been no discussions with the relatives on it between massacre and conviction ?

Is it agreed that the relatives would not attempt to frame Bamber if they thought Bamber was not aware he owned this land ?

Is it agreed that the relatives would not attempt to frame Bamber if they believed Bamber may be sympathetic to Peter Eaton if the land was ever discussed again ?

Has there been any other instances where an innocent person/s have attempted to frame another innocent person for financial gain ?
« Last Edit: December 25, 2016, 03:36:PM by Adam »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 10:49:AM »
Hopefully there will be some feedback on this today. Otherwise the relatives will be ruled out of the frame equation.

It is most likely Bamber was not aware of the mysterious piece of land PE was farming on. Which Nevill owned and was apparently in discussions with PE about. Was Nevill planning to sell the land ? No one seems sure.

It is doubtful the land would have had a big impact on PE. The relatives were already rich and Nevill wouldn't want to ruin PE. Nevill wasn't JR.

Why would DB & RB get involved in the frame if it wasn't their land ? 

Bamber showed no interest in the farm after the massacre and would not have discussed the land with PE. If it was ever discussed in the future, Bamber may have let PE continue farming on the land.

So there really is no financial reason for the relatives to carry out a horrific and extremely risky act of attempting to frame Bamber of killing his mother, father, nephews and sister.

« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 10:53:AM by Adam »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 11:23:AM »
Hopefully there will be some feedback on this today. Otherwise the relatives will be ruled out of the frame equation.


Its already been posted hundreds of times already. Don't you keep a record of the evidence?  ???


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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 10:09:AM »
https://youtu.be/NFifuUJS6_E

Trudie says Bamber was not aware of the land Nevill owned. So obviously this was not discussed between PE & Bamber prior to Bamber's conviction. 

Trudie says if Bamber was aware of this land & decided to sell it off, it would effect the relatives. But this was the same situation with Nevill who was aware of the land.

It seems that the allegation is that straight after the massacre the 'already wealthy' relatives decided to attempt a very risky frame up. By somehow expertly putting Sheila's blood into a silencer. Aware that the rifle would be too long for Sheila to shoot herself with the silencer on. And also aware there was none of Sheila's blood already on the end of the rifle found on Sheila.

This frame was attempted due to land Bamber was not aware of  which the relatives had no idea what Bamber would do with it if he ever found out.

There are no details of how selling this land would effect the 'already wealthy' relatives.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2016, 10:47:AM by Adam »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 10:57:AM »
June hadn't even known about the land either.Strange !

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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 11:18:AM »
June hadn't even known about the land either.Strange !

How do you know ?

How does that relate to the 'already wealthy' PE & other relatives immediately attempting to frame Bamber of murdering five members of his own family. Because of land Bamber was not aware of ?
« Last Edit: December 27, 2016, 11:37:AM by Adam »
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 11:56:AM »
How do you know ?

How does that relate to the 'already wealthy' PE & other relatives immediately attempting to frame Bamber of murdering five members of his own family. Because of land Bamber was not aware of ?





Because somewhere along the lines of information,it's been stated that Neville didn't divulge this land sale to anyone within the closer family circle,including June,Jeremy or Sheila-------only the relatives had known.
I don't expect backing from those on the forum who knew this !!

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 12:41:PM »




Because somewhere along the lines of information,it's been stated that Neville didn't divulge this land sale to anyone within the closer family circle,including June,Jeremy or Sheila-------only the relatives had known.
I don't expect backing from those on the forum who knew this !!

You are supposed to provide a source.  But appreciate you don't provide sources.

Agree in all liklihood June and Sheila wouldn't know about Nevill's land. If Bamber didn't know....

However not sure what June not knowing about the land has to do the relatives deciding to immediately attempt to frame Bamber of killing 5 of his relatives.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2016, 12:44:PM by Adam »
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 12:45:PM »
You are supposed to provide a source.  But appreciate you don't provide sources.

Agree in all liklihood June and Sheila wouldn't know about Nevill's land. If Bamber didn't know....

However not sure what June not knowing about the land has to do the relatives to deciding to immediately attempt to frame Bamber of killing 5 of his relatives.





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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 04:48:PM »
You are supposed to provide a source.  But appreciate you don't provide sources.

Agree in all liklihood June and Sheila wouldn't know about Nevill's land. If Bamber didn't know....

However not sure what June not knowing about the land has to do the relatives deciding to immediately attempt to frame Bamber of killing 5 of his relatives.

I think the family thought jb was guilty but thought he was going to get away with it so helped it along.

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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 05:12:PM »
I think the family thought jb was guilty but thought he was going to get away with it so helped it along.

Expertly putting Sheila's blood, red paint and a grey hair into a silencer that fitted the murder weapon, soon after the massacre,  certainly helped things along.
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Re: The relatives and inheritance video:
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 05:23:PM »
Expertly putting Sheila's blood, red paint and a grey hair into a silencer that fitted the murder weapon, soon after the massacre,  certainly helped things along.

Well the grey hair is questionable isn't it and I am not 100% convinced it was Shielas blood and I believe peter Sutherst raised reasonable doubt about the scratch marks