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Offline mike tesko

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 11:13:AM »
"When you hear the word "psychopath", you might think of Hannibal Lecter or Ted Bundy, but most psychopaths are actually non-violent and non-incarcerated members of society. In fact, there's a good chance they'll seem exceptionally altruistic and innocent to the average onlooker.

As described in the Psychopath Free book, psychopaths are first and foremost social predators. With no conscience, they're able to use charm and manipulation to get what they want from others—whether it be families, friendships, relationships, cults, the workplace, or even politics. The bottom line is, they modify their personalities to become exactly the person they think you want them to be. And they’re good at it.

1. "You over-analyze everything."

Of course there are people who DO read too much into situations. The difference with psychopaths is that you'll always discover you were correct in retrospect. They intentionally do things to make you feel on-edge or paranoid, like flirt with a once-denounced ex over social media for the whole world to see. When you question them, they accuse you of over-analyzing the situation. But then a month later, you discover they were actually cheating with that person. Psychopaths want you to doubt your intuition by making you feel like a crazy detective, constantly planting hints to make you feel anxious and then blaming you for having that anxiety.

2. "I hate drama."

And yet, you’ll soon come to discover there’s more drama surrounding them than anyone you’ve ever known. Psychopaths will first idealize you above everyone else, praising you for your perfect easy-going nature. But because they are perpetually bored, this never lasts long. They are pathological liars, serial cheaters, and eternal victims. Before long, these qualities inevitably start to surface and cause you overwhelming confusion. Any time you mention your concerns or frustration, they’ll declare their hatred of drama and make you feel bad for reacting to their horrible behavior (instead of addressing the behavior itself).

3. "You're so sensitive."

Psychopaths manufacture emotions in others—it’s what they do. After once showering you with 24/7 praise and flattery, they’ll ignore you for days on end and wait for you to react. When you finally do, they’ll accuse you of being sensitive or needy. They’ll insult, belittle, and criticize you (usually in a teasing/joking demeanor), pushing your boundaries until you finally speak up. Then they use your manufactured reactions to make you seem crazy. Within weeks, psychopaths can turn an exceptionally easy-going person into an unrecognizable mess of insecurities and self-doubt.

4. "You misunderstood me."

Sure, healthy couples have misunderstandings and miscommunications all the time. But with psychopaths, they’ll intentionally say things they know will provoke you. Then when you react, they’ll turn it around on you and blame you for misunderstanding. Oftentimes, they’ll even deny that they ever said it. This is called gaslighting—blatantly doing or saying something, and then blaming you for misinterpreting it (or denying that it even took place). The fact is, you understood what they said perfectly fine. They’re just trying to make you doubt your sanity.

5. "You're crazy / bipolar / jealous / bitter / in love with me."

The name-calling usually starts when things are going downhill fast. According to a psychopath, all of their ex lovers, colleagues, and friends are crazy, bipolar, jealous, bitter, or in love with them. This becomes very confusing when they start reaching out to those very same people they once denounced to you, using them to triangulate and cause chaos (making the psychopath appear in high-demand at all times). Then they toss you in that very same "crazy" bucket, continuing their never-ending cycle of idealizing and devaluing anyone unfortunate enough to cross their path.

The only way out is to go No Contact. This means no texts, calls, emails, or even Facebook friendships. Otherwise you can be guaranteed that they’ll do anything and everything in their power to make you feel crazy. The good news is, when a psychopath tries to make you doubt your intuition, it means your intuition was causing them trouble. Psychopaths seek to psychologically destroy anyone who might threaten their illusion of normalcy to the world. So when they begin playing mind games with you, it’s actually a strange indirect tribute to your ability to notice that something was “off” about them.

Police records confirm that Sheila was present in the kitchen (7.37and 7.38am), and that her body was not upstairs in any bedroom by 8.10am. Additionally the rifle which was later photographed in Sheila's possession by 'DC 'Oakey (25) and PC Bird (26, onward) was confirmed resting against a first floor window by 7.15am...

No lies, no bullshit, but good old fashioned police records, containing information which the cops and the CPS daren't risk informing the jury which tried the matter about...

Why?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2016, 10:42:PM »
Jeremy Bamber groomed JM and in so doing made her a co conspirator

 http://outofthefog.website/top-100-trait-blog/2015/11/4/grooming

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2016, 08:49:AM »
Here we go again------imagination running amok  ::)

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2016, 08:56:AM »
Do you believe all killers are psychopaths ?

Can someone be an 'inheritance killer' and not be a psychopath ? If so supporters are wasting their time saying Bamber is not a psychopath, as it doesn't mean he did not commit the massacre.
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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2016, 09:31:AM »
Here we go again------imagination running amok  ::)

Jeremy Bamber received a life sentence for murder, hardly my imagination.


"Abusers who groom their victims often claim to have a special connection with the abused. The so- called connection might be emotional, intellectual, sexual, spiritual, or all of the above. This is often backed up by the predator echoing back part of the target's own background or story, altered to fit the groomer’s back-story, in order to confirm the connection. Not only did JB groom JM, he groomed many others and continues to do so.

In order to abuse or exploit another person without fear of discovery, a sexual predator or con artist will frequently condition their intended victim to keep secrets for them. And we all know what secret JB had hoped JM would keep for him. When building this bond of trust, an abuser may share seemingly personal or private information, and then swear the victim to secrecy. The victim is made to believe that they are being trusted with something of value, before being asked to share something of value with his/her abuser.

Abusers use shared secrets to bind their victims to them. By degrees, the target is gradually lured in to revealing private information, giving up money, property or sexual favors, or permitting /engaging in inappropriate, unsafe, or illegal behaviors. • The victim is often drawn in to being a "co-conspirator” (also known as forced teaming) with his or her abuser. As can be seen by JM disclosures to police.

Eventually, the bond of secrecy is nearly always reinforced with threats, shaming and guilt to keep the victim silent about his or her shared crimes or misdeeds. JM put a stop to this when she came clean to the police.


"Predators work in the shadows, and have something to hide.
Predators claim to feel a "special connection" with their targets, even if they've only just met. This can be seen with all those who have had contact with Bamber.
Predators recruit co-conspirators (forced teaming) to fight their battles and do their bidding. The CT, Trudi, etc
Predators draw their victims in by sharing private information then swearing them to secrecy. If a person wants to keep a secret; they tell no one that secret. But Jeremy Bamber has a habit of sharing private information and swearing others to secrecy. His behaviour is not only classic, it's see through
Predators practice divide and conquer techniques in order to manipulate others.
Again, classic behaviour of Jeremy Bamber.

Examples of Grooming:

An individual who lures lonely or vulnerable people into a romantic relationship in order to position themselves for monetary gain.
An adult in a position of authority who uses their status to entice minor children into engaging in sexual activity.
Anyone who manufactures a (false) bond of trust in order to extract promises or favors from another.

The victim finds themselves willingly handing over money or assets, engaging in inappropriate, illegal or morally ambiguous actives, or acting as a proxy for the abuser, fighting the abuser’s battles, and carrying out their will. This is exactly what happened to Julie Mugford.

The victim often feels confusion, shame, guilt, remorse and disgust at his or her own participation. Equally powerful, is the panic that comes with the threat of being exposed for engaging these activities. There may also an overwhelming fear of losing the emotional bond that has been established with an abuser. The victim becomes trapped, depressed or despondent. It's likely JM felt some or all of these emotions. And there's no doubt the police recognised this at the time.
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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2016, 10:59:AM »
Do you believe all killers are psychopaths ?

Can someone be an 'inheritance killer' and not be a psychopath ? If so supporters are wasting their time saying Bamber is not a psychopath, as it doesn't mean he did not commit the massacre.




I don't know about them being psychopaths,they're not right in the head that's for sure !!

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2016, 11:27:AM »
Do you believe all killers are psychopaths ?

Can someone be an 'inheritance killer' and not be a psychopath ? If so supporters are wasting their time saying Bamber is not a psychopath, as it doesn't mean he did not commit the massacre.
Hi Adam,
I do believe a cold blooded murderer has to have some kind of personality disorder, many have been abused as children themselves.  It's often a 'chicken and egg' situation i.e.. nature or nurture and very difficult to sit in judgement imo. 
To me the main action is to keep the rest of society safe from such damaged and dangerous individuals so I am up to a point in agreement with Steve's suggestion of a safe island for such people.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2016, 05:13:PM »
Hi Adam,
I do believe a cold blooded murderer has to have some kind of personality disorder, many have been abused as children themselves.  It's often a 'chicken and egg' situation i.e.. nature or nurture and very difficult to sit in judgement imo. 
To me the main action is to keep the rest of society safe from such damaged and dangerous individuals so I am up to a point in agreement with Steve's suggestion of a safe island for such people.
I think it's for their own protection, when you consider the tiny minority who have been told they will never be released and paedophiles for example, who can never be rehabilitated. You only have to consider the incident last night at Birmingham Prison when a group of prisoners stole a guard's keys to think of what might have happened to such undesirables in the ringleaders' midst.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2016, 05:24:PM »
A powerful hose would have shifted those airheads in the prison------or rubber bullets fired at their behinds. Though a machine gun works better.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2016, 05:28:PM »
According to Eric Allison, he wants the public to see and hear him as this will prove he isnt capable of murder?

Trudy Benjamin refers to Bambers sense of humour.

SH also had a sense of humour and also didn't look and sound like a murderer.

But then what does a murderer look and sound like?

« Last Edit: December 17, 2016, 05:36:PM by Stephanie »
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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2016, 02:07:PM »
Which reminds me; the altruistic narcissist... the gift that keeps on giving...  ;D

Another weapon in a psychopaths arsenal.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2016, 03:19:PM »
Sheila was the narcissist,not Jeremy. Majority of actors,actresses and show-people in general are narcissists. So that particular odious trait covers a large proportion,not just the criminal element.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2016, 03:25:PM »
Sheila was the narcissist,not Jeremy. Majority of actors,actresses and show-people in general are narcissists. So that particular odious trait covers a large proportion,not just the criminal element.

Who says I was referring to Jeremy Bamber?

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2016, 03:54:PM »
Sheila was the narcissist,not Jeremy. Majority of actors,actresses and show-people in general are narcissists. So that particular odious trait covers a large proportion,not just the criminal element.


Now, HOW strange is that? You refuse to accept that Jeremy is a psychopath -despite that there HAVE been psychiatrists who found him to be so- yet with no qualifications whatsoever, you seem to believe you have the right to label Sheila -and unnamed actors/celebrities- as narcissists. I don't recall that any professional has said this.

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Re: ** Warning ** Beware of Jeremy Bamber!!
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2016, 04:14:PM »
Who says I was referring to Jeremy Bamber?





It's blatantly obvious that you keep comparing SH with JB.