When the enquiry changed from a suicide to murder did the relatives have alibis?

[chelmsey]

How is it hearsay when he often witnessed Junes behaviour?

[Alias]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

So what? That is no big crime in my book!

[chelmsey]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

What witness?The only witness is brown bread!

[chelmsey]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

I am quite sure that Sheila's problems had little to do with how June interpreted the Bible. Sheila was very much dependent on Nevill who seemed to be her knight in shining armour...just another reason why the allegation that Sheila shot him is totally preposterous!!

For the record John,I dont believe that Sheila murdered anyone either,but whether you like it or not - June was a wrong-un!

[John]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

What witness?The only witness is brown bread!

It's all in the statements, maybe andrea knows where...

sheila had had an abortion and miscarriages before giving birth to the twins, this had an effect on her mental well being.Also when june caught colinb and sheila sunbathing naked in the fields around WHF, june called sheila the devils child, that also had a massive effect on her.It has been said that her mental health got worse from that day.

[John]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

I am quite sure that Sheila's problems had little to do with how June interpreted the Bible. Sheila was very much dependent on Nevill who seemed to be her knight in shining armour...just another reason why the allegation that Sheila shot him is totally preposterous!!

For the record John,I dont believe that Sheila murdered anyone either,but whether you like it or not - June was a wrong-un!

I think she had mental health problems too.  Could there be a clue in why she was unable to have any children of her own?  Nature has a wonderful way of sorting such issues.

[Alias]

They were not "shagging" in the hayfield John. Sheila had just had a termination for goodness sake!

Well a witness gave evidence to that effect that June caught Caffell and Sheila naked in the hayfield.

I am quite sure that Sheila's problems had little to do with how June interpreted the Bible. Sheila was very much dependent on Nevill who seemed to be her knight in shining armour...just another reason why the allegation that Sheila shot him is totally preposterous!!

For the record John,I dont believe that Sheila murdered anyone either,but whether you like it or not - June was a wrong-un!

I think she had mental health problems too.  Could there be a clue in why she was unable to have any children of her own?  Nature has a wonderful way of sorting such issues.

So you claim to know the problem was with June. Or are you just guessing? It could as well have been Nevill.

[chelmsey]

Yes it is true that June caught Sheila and Colin sunbathing naked in a field.Junes "over the top" reaction to this accellerated Sheilas illness.It did not cause it because Sheila was already having problems mentally before this incident.I do not know why June was infertile.Maybe it was something like endometrisis,but back in her day they may not have had the tests that they have nowadays.

[chelmsey]

Abs..........it is stated somewhere that they both had tests and the problem was with June.That was when they decided to adopt.

[Alias]

Abs..........it is stated somewhere that they both had tests and the problem was with June.That was when they decided to adopt.

OK

[John]

I have no problem in agreeing with you that June wasn't an ideal parent, look at what her son did.

It is well documented in the statements that Jeremy was driving his poor dad to distraction. I find it difficult to believe that Nevill actually telephoned Jeremy for help that morning. I personally think it was Jeremy who made that call himself while he was at the farmhouse and after he had murdered them all.

[chelmsey]

John.......I cant quite work you out! One minute you are defending June and the next you are admitting that she too had mental health problems and that nature was wonderful in not allowing her to have children of her own   

[andrea]

sheila had suffered mental health problems before the twins were even born, when she was on a modelling assignment in hong kong she wrote a letter to colin asking him to book her an appointment with a psychiatrist for when she arrived back in england.


the day june caught them sunbbathing in the fields surrounding WHF sheila had recently had a termination, but she still had her pregnancy shape and liked it, so colin took photos of her with sheilas consent of course.

when june caught them she was furious and called sheila the devils child, colin said himself that from that day sheilas mental condition became worse.

[John]

John.......I cant quite work you out! One minute you are defending June and the next you are admitting that she too had mental health problems and that nature was wonderful in not allowing her to have children of her own   

One cannot help having mental health problems, it cannot be held against June. Nobody wishes for such an ailment!

[chelmsey]

I have no problem in agreeing with you that June wasn't an ideal parent, look at what her son did.

It is well documented in the statements that Jeremy was driving his poor dad to distraction. I find it difficult to believe that Nevill actually telephoned Jeremy for help that morning. I personally think it was Jeremy who made that call himself while he was at the farmhouse and after he had murdered them all.

Jeremy was driving his poor old dad to distaction.It is well documented in the statements.And WHOSE statements might that be John?