The Secret Land deal - relatives did not want anyone to find out about?

[John]

Family heirlooms that would go to Jeremy!!!

He wasn't considered family by the Boutflours and Eatons lovey!

By law he was - the Bs and Es couldn´t just make their own laws.
It saddens me every time I see this attitude towards adopted children.

I'm going to share something with everyone here...

I have the exact same scenario in my own family abs, with an adopted child who will inherit a substantial part of the family estates so I can empathise with the relations. This is probably one reason why I was drawn to the case in the first place. As a child growing up I listened to my own parents deride the arrangement over many years, I have watched the whole debacle unfold before me and ultimately polarise the family just like as in the Bamber family.

I agree that adoption is a wonderful thing but only if undertaken for all the right reasons.

I also don't agree that the comment by Nevill about bringing children into this world didn't apply to Jeremy. This is a figure of speech, a well known saying that I have heard many times within my own family. I am quite sure it was aimed at Jeremy.

The punch by Peter Eaton has also been blown out of all proportion. So what if Peter was angry and had a quick temper...he didn't beat Nevill up for Gods sake!  Jackie's comment to the effect that Peter could kill him is just typical Jackie, exaggeration being her forté.

I don´t understand that way of thinking. Those adopted children have nowhere else to go, they have been in a family from infancy in most cases.
We have two adopted children in my family. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE thinks of them as anything but belonging to the FAMILY 100%.

So you seriously think that adopted children should have no right to inherit???

You have to understand the old way of thinking abs which is still very prevalent even today.  There was a time when an adopted or illegitimate child could not automatically by right inherit from their fathers estate. Even today, heritable titles are not passed on to illegitimate or adopted children.

To give you a simple example, if the Queen and Prince Philip had adopted a child before Charlie boy was born, that child would never become the monarch.

[clifford]

Family heirlooms that would go to Jeremy!!!

He wasn't considered family by the Boutflours and Eatons lovey!

By law he was - the Bs and Es couldn´t just make their own laws.
It saddens me every time I see this attitude towards adopted children.

I'm going to share something with everyone here...

I have the exact same scenario in my own family abs, with an adopted child who will inherit a substantial part of the family estates so I can empathise with the relations. This is probably one reason why I was drawn to the case in the first place. As a child growing up I listened to my own parents deride the arrangement over many years, I have watched the whole debacle unfold before me and ultimately polarise the family just like as in the Bamber family.

I agree that adoption is a wonderful thing but only if undertaken for all the right reasons.

I also don't agree that the comment by Nevill about bringing children into this world didn't apply to Jeremy. This is a figure of speech, a well known saying that I have heard many times within my own family. I am quite sure it was aimed at Jeremy.

The punch by Peter Eaton has also been blown out of all proportion. So what if Peter was angry and had a quick temper...he didn't beat Nevill up for Gods sake!  Jackie's comment to the effect that Peter could kill him is just typical Jackie, exaggeration being her forté.

Now we know where you are coming from John. You were jealous of the cuckoo, as you said this what drew you to the case.
Neville did not bring any children into this world, he could June could not.
How do you know how many times Peter hit Neville, you are implying it was one punch yet it could have been an all out assault.
Tell me John as a young man would you have beat a 62 year old man. I hope you can answer no.

[John]

Now we know where you are coming from John. You were jealous of the cuckoo, as you said this what drew you to the case.
Neville did not bring any children into this world, he could June could not.
How do you know how many times Peter hit Neville, you are implying it was one punch yet it could have been an all out assault.
Tell me John as a young man would you have beat a 62 year old man. I hope you can answer no.

Apparently you cannot read and your response is most certainly disingenuous and to be expected of a Bamber supporter.

Nevill probably deserved the punch in the eye or he would have taken it further...oops forgot, he had a secret deal with Peter behind June's back didn't he? 

I wonder how he explained that one away to the family?

[clifford]

Now we know where you are coming from John. You were jealous of the cuckoo, as you said this what drew you to the case.
Neville did not bring any children into this world, he could June could not.
How do you know how many times Peter hit Neville, you are implying it was one punch yet it could have been an all out assault.
Tell me John as a young man would you have beat a 62 year old man. I hope you can answer no.

Apparently you cannot read and your response is most certainly disingenuous and to be expected of a Bamber supporter.

Nevill probably deserved the punch in the eye or he would have taken it further...oops forgot, he had a secret deal with Peter behind June's back didn't he? 

I wonder how he explained that one away to the family?

John to be clear I am NOT a Bamber supporter. As I have always stated I am a fence sitter.
Now you tell me how you came to the conclusion that Nevill deserved the punch in the eye. As you already know Nevill tried to keep things in house, that is why he did not take it further.
 I ask you again would you as a young man assault a man of 62. Please answer honestly.

[andrea]

i though you had changed to innocent cliff?  i was on the fence for ages, but them splinters were murder 

[clifford]

i though you had changed to innocent cliff?  i was on the fence for ages, but them splinters were murder 

Nah Andrea I have always been a fence sitter, but did admit my bum sliding towards JB. To be honest I think he is innocent, but I am sure even you are not certain.
More to the point I asked John a question a while ago. I shall refresh his memory.
John as a young man would you have assaulted a man of 62. Honest answer PLEASE.

[andrea]

looks like youre not going to get your answer cliff 

[John]

More to the point I asked John a question a while ago. I shall refresh his memory.
John as a young man would you have assaulted a man of 62. Honest answer PLEASE.

I answered you ages ago Cliff...do keep up!

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,831.msg22728.html#msg22728

[Jackiepreece]

John how dare you say Neville deserved it you really shouldn't be walking the streets. The longer you are on this forum the nastier you get. It's disgusting the stuff you come out with who are you to judge Neville.
I hope everything I have heard about you is true it couldn't have happened to a nicer person.
I wish I had been there to see it.
Your obsessional hatred of JB is unnatural thank god I have never come across someone so vile in my life

It was an absolute pleasure to see you put in your place today

[John]

How dare you Jackie!

Dream on Jackie, it would take a better player to do that luvey.  Some anonymous numpty who thinks he is jack the lad with a pea shooter...what an idiot!

It is quite true about Nevill, he probably did the dirty on Peter in some way and he got a black eye for his trouble. It's not rocket science!

But then again you don't understand logic and the facts do you Jackie?  Do you ever answer questions Jackie or it your life's quest to ask stupid ones?

What about that date in Tolleshunt D'Arcy  Jackie, is the Queens Head still on or would you feel intimidated?

[shonapugs]

Please, please don't lets blacken the character of a man who it would appear died while trying to save his family. I'm sure that John didn't mean that Ralph deserved what happened to him.

[John]

Please, please don't lets blacken the character of a man who it would appear died while trying to save his family. I'm sure that John didn't mean that Ralph deserved what happened to him.

Sorry if I misled Shona, my remark relates to the black eye and not the murder.

[shonapugs]

It's cool, John. Maybe we're all getting a bit twitchy because we've reached stalemate. We're waiting for something to happen.

[John]

Possibly, off now, catch you later!

[Jackiepreece]

John intimidated by you never
You have no idea who I am but I know all about you

I find it hilarious that you are doing your best to frighten people you are what you are and that's why your life has turned out the way it has

My life is wonderful I don't have a single thing to complain about

Your obsession about JB (he gets about 100 letters a week from girls)is abnormal
And now you are acting the same about Ngb because he is smarter than you

You need to get some professional help and soon