Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?

[Adam]

There's more from the prosecution which contains false evidence regarding the window catches. The " supposed route " through which JB had exited. One minute EP had stated that everywhere had been locked/secured from the inside,the next they'd said he'd got out that way.
 Did this " escape " occur a month later after it was said it was a murder ?
The window catches could only have been secured from the inside but the jury had been told that the windows were closed,but no mention of being secured. All windows were inspected by DCI Jones and found to have been secured from the inside !

No Lookout. There are 20 sources which say the kitchen window could be banged shut from outside.

The police on the night said all windows appeared to be shut. Apart  from the upstairs small window. This was correct.

This issue has been closed for years.

[guest7363]

Interesting letter Trudy has written to the Justice Minister regarding the non disclosure and requesting a meeting.

whether we believe him guilty or innocent, Essex police seem to think they are above the law. That cant be right. You would think there would be a legal angle on this but it doesn't say they are taking that route does it.

Cannot see this happening, we have a system in place that Bamber uses called the CCRC and they have all the powers to do this for him, put there by the government.

What will the CCRC do to investigate my case?
The CCRC was created specially to review cases where someone says they have been the victim of a miscarriage of justice. We have special legal powers under section 17 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1995 which mean we can get any information that we need from any public body in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. This means that we can get sensitive information from organisations like social services, the armed forces and intelligence agencies. We can obtain material that the police and the prosecution did not have to disclose to the defence (including Public Interest Immunity or PII material) and information from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority and others.
We will use our special legal powers to get the information we think we need to review a case. We may use any information to investigate a case, but we will always be very careful about releasing sensitive information to anyone outside the CCRC.

[lookout]

No Lookout. There are 20 sources which say the kitchen window could be banged shut from outside.

The police on the night said all windows appeared to be shut. Apart  from the upstairs small window. This was correct.

This issue has been closed for years.

WRONG ! The window can't secure itself after being " banged shut ",as just because that happens doesn't mean that it's in the same position if it had been secured from the inside--------which is what was first established by " Taff " Jones.
 On the contrary, it's an issue which is being brought up in this next appeal.

[Caroline]

That's not illegible though,is it ?

illegible

adjective
1.
unable to be read or deciphered

[lookout]

Trudi has launched the Crowdjustice which is a Crowdfunded public interest law which serves those involved with MOJ's/wrong-doings and is being used worldwide to raise funds in order to secure a third appeal for JB. This will run until the 29th of October when funds reaching £4,000 will be used to overturn this terrible injustice.
 

[Adam]

WRONG ! The window can't secure itself after being " banged shut ",as just because that happens doesn't mean that it's in the same position if it had been secured from the inside--------which is what was first established by " Taff " Jones.
 On the contrary, it's an issue which is being brought up in this next appeal.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6217.msg292259.html#msg292259

The issue is closed.

The CCRC will not hear his application if his points are this weak.

[lookout]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6217.msg292259.html#msg292259

The issue is closed.

The CCRC will not hear his application if his points are this weak.

No issues are closed when preparing for a third appeal----------don't be silly.It's re-opened again !

[lookout]

illegible

adjective
1.
unable to be read or deciphered

  I know what it means. What I said was that what you put on screen wasn't illegible.Now do you understand ? You're hard going at times.

[notsure]

Cannot see this happening, we have a system in place that Bamber uses called the CCRC and they have all the powers to do this for him, put there by the government.

What will the CCRC do to investigate my case?
The CCRC was created specially to review cases where someone says they have been the victim of a miscarriage of justice. We have special legal powers under section 17 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1995 which mean we can get any information that we need from any public body in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. This means that we can get sensitive information from organisations like social services, the armed forces and intelligence agencies. We can obtain material that the police and the prosecution did not have to disclose to the defence (including Public Interest Immunity or PII material) and information from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority and others.
We will use our special legal powers to get the information we think we need to review a case. We may use any information to investigate a case, but we will always be very careful about releasing sensitive information to anyone outside the CCRC.

Yes they have the power to do what you say but if you read it it clearly states the ep are not complying.

[notsure]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6217.msg292259.html#msg292259

The issue is closed.

The CCRC will not hear his application if his points are this weak.

you wish

[guest7363]

Yes they have the power to do what you say but if you read it it clearly states the ep are not complying.

If it's there they have the power to get it, doesn't matter if EP comply, they have special legal powers to get any information they need, that's why I said I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudy, the government set up the CCRC to deal fairly with MOJ, The CCRC is independent of everyone.

[David1819]

If it's there they have the power to get it, doesn't matter if EP comply, they have special legal powers to get any information they need, that's why I said I cannot see the Justice minister meeting Trudy, the government set up the CCRC to deal fairly with MOJ, The CCRC is independent of everyone.

That was the idea.

[Caroline]

  I know what it means. What I said was that what you put on screen wasn't illegible.Now do you understand ? You're hard going at times.

I highlighted the word DECIPHERED or are you telling us you know exactly what that note means?

[lookout]

I highlighted the word DECIPHERED or are you telling us you know exactly what that note means?

I was actually referring to the letters and not that note.

[Caroline]

I was actually referring to the letters and not that note.

Adam asked

Is there a source of these hand written notes. I mean a police document saying it was there.

The only source I have seen is from the OS.

You replied

I believe it was itemised/logged as part of scene of crime.

I said

No, that was the note with the letters and numbers, which I have previously already posted in this thread.

 

You then said

That's not illegible though,is it ?

I then said

illegible

adjective
1.
unable to be read or deciphered

You replied

  I know what it means. What I said was that what you put on screen wasn't illegible.Now do you understand ? You're hard going at times.

My reply

I highlighted the word DECIPHERED or are you telling us you know exactly what that note means?

And finally

I was actually referring to the letters and not that note.

Basically you suggested the 'so called' suicide notes were given a crime reference, they weren't. The note with the crime reference was the one I posted. I believe it is THIS note that was described as 'illegible' because it can't be deciphered.