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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #660 on: September 20, 2016, 05:52:AM »
Why wasnt any blood transferred onto the hand swabs (75) purportedly examined at the lab two months later?

Funny how the original hand swabs (17) were rejected at the lab' on the 9th August 1985, because of a fear that some form of cross contamination occurred beforehand - this contamination no longer being an issue by the time the swabs reappeared in the 'guise of lab' item 75...
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #661 on: September 20, 2016, 06:04:AM »
Funny how the original hand swabs (17) were rejected at the lab' on the 9th August 1985, because of a fear that some form of cross contamination occurred beforehand - this contamination no longer being an issue by the time the swabs reappeared in the 'guise of lab' item 75...

Oh, I get it now...

The contamination 'evaporated', along with 'spirit used to test for the presence of lead deposit', hence why there appeared to be such a drastic difference in the levels of lead deposit on the swabs taken from Sheila Caffell two months before swabs were taken from testees at the lab' only a matter of days before all the swabs which were tested produced the dramatic differences...

The 'evaporation' of the contamination that was present when the swabs in the form of item 17 were taken to the lab' and rejected on the 9th August 1985, absent two months later upon the same hand swabs by which time the swabs had become item 75...

Testees hand swabs  were only a couple of days old, by comparison...


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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #662 on: September 29, 2016, 11:11:AM »
Getting back to the letters,a psychiatric expert in the forensics of letters written by a suicide patient will distinguish between a letter which had been written as being " despondent " or one which indicated insanity. Because the addressee was " Mummy ",it would indicate that the murders/suicide was an act of blame for which had Sheila survived,she'd have faced a prison sentence as the letter would have proved her sane when she wrote them. Sheila was also angry towards Colin,another act of blame included in the letter. Added together,these proved that there were relationship problems as well as others,in which the author tries to justify their own feelings and not those of others.

Sheila also told those that she'd met/befriended that she didn't get on with her mother,so the seed of blame and despondency was already planted. Many who knew Sheila had been fully aware of this,including her psychiatrist.

I can't imagine or envisage that anyone contemplating suicide would write a " composition " on their life before taking it !

Forensic psychiatry has come a long way since the mid-80's and if the said letters hadn't been ignored in the first place Jeremy wouldn't be where he is now. Apart from other aspects of the case !!
 

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #663 on: September 29, 2016, 12:14:PM »
5 days to go before the 1st of October? http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #664 on: September 29, 2016, 12:31:PM »
Donations:

"We need to raise £1,530 in 28 days (before the 1st October), to pay for a forensic report on a series of handwritten pages by Sheila Caffell found at the scene. We believe this is a suicide letter".


Does this mean the CT have dismissed the possibility that the note in the bible was a suicide note. Or are they keeping their options open ?
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #665 on: September 29, 2016, 12:33:PM »
CT haven't dismissed anything and they're well on track regarding forensics.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #666 on: September 29, 2016, 12:36:PM »
Is there a source of these hand written notes. I mean a police document saying it was there.

The only source I have seen is from the OS.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #667 on: September 29, 2016, 02:54:PM »
Is there a source of these hand written notes. I mean a police document saying it was there.

The only source I have seen is from the OS.



I believe it was itemised/logged as part of scene of crime.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #668 on: September 29, 2016, 02:57:PM »


I believe it was itemised/logged as part of scene of crime.

No, that was the note with the letters and numbers, which I have previously already posted in this thread.

 

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #669 on: September 29, 2016, 04:24:PM »
No, that was the note with the letters and numbers, which I have previously already posted in this thread.

 



That's not illegible though,is it ?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #670 on: September 29, 2016, 04:58:PM »
Interesting letter Trudy has written to the Justice Minister regarding the non disclosure and requesting a meeting.

whether we believe him guilty or innocent, Essex police seem to think they are above the law. That cant be right. You would think there would be a legal angle on this but it doesn't say they are taking that route does it.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #671 on: September 29, 2016, 06:14:PM »
No, that was the note with the letters and numbers, which I have previously already posted in this thread.

 

Is this supposed to be a suicide note ?
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #672 on: September 29, 2016, 06:20:PM »
Interesting letter Trudy has written to the Justice Minister regarding the non disclosure and requesting a meeting.

whether we believe him guilty or innocent, Essex police seem to think they are above the law. That cant be right. You would think there would be a legal angle on this but it doesn't say they are taking that route does it.

So that's why Trudie has stopped posting vlogs.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #673 on: September 29, 2016, 07:07:PM »
Interesting letter Trudy has written to the Justice Minister regarding the non disclosure and requesting a meeting.

whether we believe him guilty or innocent, Essex police seem to think they are above the law. That cant be right. You would think there would be a legal angle on this but it doesn't say they are taking that route does it.



There's more from the prosecution which contains false evidence regarding the window catches. The " supposed route " through which JB had exited. One minute EP had stated that everywhere had been locked/secured from the inside,the next they'd said he'd got out that way.
 Did this " escape " occur a month later after it was said it was a murder ?
The window catches could only have been secured from the inside but the jury had been told that the windows were closed,but no mention of being secured. All windows were inspected by DCI Jones and found to have been secured from the inside !

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #674 on: September 29, 2016, 07:08:PM »
Is this supposed to be a suicide note ?



NO.