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Offline lookout

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #645 on: September 18, 2016, 08:59:PM »
Mental health may be more spoken about these days , however the treatment is still lacking unfortunately .




You're telling me,even 30 odd years on we haven't gained much ground.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #646 on: September 18, 2016, 09:08:PM »



You're telling me,even 30 odd years on we haven't gained much ground.

With mental health? Or the Bamber case.

Sorry.  ;D :-[

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #647 on: September 19, 2016, 10:25:AM »
A young mother in America starts a prison sentence for drowning her toddler son so that she didn't have to share custody with his father.
Reports of abuse 5 days prior to the child's murder were unfounded after the mother had been visited by police and social workers. Talks of her attempted suicide were also questionable.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #648 on: September 19, 2016, 12:04:PM »
A young mother in America starts a prison sentence for drowning her toddler son so that she didn't have to share custody with his father.
Reports of abuse 5 days prior to the child's murder were unfounded after the mother had been visited by police and social workers. Talks of her attempted suicide were also questionable.

And there are many reports of parents being killed by their son.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173491/Suspect-18-admits-stabbed-parents-death-home.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/16-year-old-son-accused-killing-parents-texas-home-article-1.1900890

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tyler-hadley-who-killed-his-parents-at-17-then-threw-party-sentenced-to-life/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-accused-of-killing-parents-after-dad-handcuffed-him-in-house-party-dispute/

Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #649 on: September 19, 2016, 02:40:PM »
Well of course,murder knows no bounds when it comes to gender.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #651 on: September 19, 2016, 11:13:PM »
None of these terrible tragedies happen in a vacuum but are the culmination of years of alleged abuse of some sort. To my mind this only strengthens the case against Jeremy Bamber and his year-long planning of murder.

There is no reliable evidence he planned a murder. All of Mugfords testimony can be traced to their source none of it comes from Jeremy.

Who did he have murder Sheila while he was outside?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #652 on: September 19, 2016, 11:36:PM »
There is no reliable evidence he planned a murder. All of Mugfords testimony can be traced to their source none of it comes from Jeremy.

Who did he have murder Sheila while he was outside?
He made sure all were dead, something Sheila in psychosis would not have done. He went back to finish off June, bashed Nevill unnecessarily and after all the hard work botched the shot to Sheila, so had to repeat, which only made it look all the more the mess that it was.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #653 on: September 19, 2016, 11:50:PM »
He made sure all were dead, something Sheila in psychosis would not have done.

Now your really making things up.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #654 on: September 20, 2016, 12:10:AM »
Now your really making things up.
Sheila was weary and ready for bed. She was tired at the two weekend parties, tired on the Sunday journey down, tired in the Tiptree shop, tired at the kitchen table and tired when asked to speak to Auntie Pam. I really can't explain it all further to you..

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #655 on: September 20, 2016, 12:53:AM »
Sheila was weary and ready for bed. She was tired at the two weekend parties, tired on the Sunday journey down, tired in the Tiptree shop, tired at the kitchen table and tired when asked to speak to Auntie Pam. I really can't explain it all further to you..

Tired of life perhaps?


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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #656 on: September 20, 2016, 05:00:AM »
Cops originally believed the killer was Sheila herself, there's an old saying 'rely on your first instincts'...

(1) - http://www.wikihow.com/Follow-Your-Intuition
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 05:04:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #657 on: September 20, 2016, 05:13:AM »
If Bamber had been the killer, why would the prosecution and the police try to hide and conceal the bloodied finger and hand marks that were present at seven key locations, (1) the front lower part of Sheila's nightdress, (2) on the bible, (3) on the edge of the kitchen worktop near the ammunition and the telephone, (4) upon one of the 30 live rounds in the kitchen, (5) upon an empty cartridge box found in the gun cupboard, (6) upon the throat of June Bamber, and (7) on the top part of Sheila's right hand?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 05:22:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #658 on: September 20, 2016, 05:41:AM »
If Bamber had been the killer, why would the prosecution and the police try to hide and conceal the bloodied finger and hand marks that were present at seven key locations, (1) the front lower part of Sheila's nightdress, (2) on the bible, (3) on the edge of the kitchen worktop near the ammunition and the telephone, (4) upon one of the 30 live rounds in the kitchen, (5) upon an empty cartridge box found in the gun cupboard, (6) upon the throat of June Bamber, and (7) on the top part of Sheila's right hand?

The hand of the killer certainly had blood upon it (7), the hand of the killer certainly attempted to throttle June Bamber (6) the hand of the killer may have handled an empty cartridge box (5), the hand of the killer certainly handled additional bullets whch needed putting into the gun (4), the hand of the killer was capable of making the bloodied marks on the edge of the kitchen worktop (3), and the bible (2), and lets not forget, that the bloodied hand of the killer certainly could have made the marks on the front lower part of the nightdress (1)...

Seems to me, that the deliberate attempt on the part of the prosecution, police and their witnesses to falsely claim that Sheila Caffells hands and feet were spotlessly clean, was designed to divert attention away fom these seven key locations where bloodied hand / fingermarks had been found and identified but not relied upon in any part of the prosecutions case. Worse still, if Sheila had not been responsible for making any of these marks, then why wasn't any of this key evidence introduced and used to help promote the idea that Bamber was the killer?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 05:43:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #659 on: September 20, 2016, 05:47:AM »
Why wasnt any blood transferred onto the hand swabs (75) purportedly examined at the lab two months later?
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