Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?

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If EP have kept quiet about every question they have been asked so far then I don't think they are going to come forward now. And if this is proved not to be Sheila's writing then I think going to the press will make the CT team look bad. Just get it tested first. if they know the source definitely, then  I think to raise the money would not be difficult , but I don't think they do.

Oh dear,putting the cart before the horse is never good really,unless there is a strong argument about it being Sheila's handwriting,which can be compared by a mere layman if there are other letters to compare them to.
I don't really understand the use of forensics to carry out this task though,except that it would be a guarantee that they were authentic using a signature of proof.

[Jan]

Oh dear,putting the cart before the horse is never good really,unless there is a strong argument about it being Sheila's handwriting,which can be compared by a mere layman if there are other letters to compare them to.
I don't really understand the use of forensics to carry out this task though,except that it would be a guarantee that they were authentic using a signature of proof.

I think they would need a professional opinion because just a side by side comparison may not be enough.

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I think they would need a professional opinion because just a side by side comparison may not be enough.

They used to be known as handwriting experts,forensics didn't come into it. That's where the high fee comes in.

[Jan]

They used to be known as handwriting experts,forensics didn't come into it. That's where the high fee comes in.

Who knows perhaps there will be forensics on the paper as well ? I guess there would be prints? But I have no idea how long after the event they would be traceable ?

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Who knows perhaps there will be forensics on the paper as well ? I guess there would be prints? But I have no idea how long after the event they would be traceable ?

I thought of fingerprints myself at first,but if they've been handled by various people then that cancels that out straightaway. I suppose the only possibility is whether the same pen/biro is found to be on other notes/letters written in Sheila's hand.

[Jan]

I thought of fingerprints myself at first,but if they've been handled by various people then that cancels that out straightaway. I suppose the only possibility is whether the same pen/biro is found to be on other notes/letters written in Sheila's hand.

Oh I don't know if the police found the note surely they used gloves???

Some hope.

[notsure]

I think the main issue regarding these notes is that they need confirmation of sheila mental state and anyone who looks at them know that they are written by someone very unstable. They need it confirmed that it is shields handwriting  and then another expert to give an opinion on her mental state. Either way if they get that that's something else they can include in the next appeal.

I can't see how any of us can deny that if confirmed they were written by shiela and were recent they show that shiela really was still very unwell.

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Oh I don't know if the police found the note surely they used gloves???

Some hope.

Some hope indeed.

[Jan]

I think the main issue regarding these notes is that they need confirmation of sheila mental state and anyone who looks at them know that they are written by someone very unstable. They need it confirmed that it is shields handwriting  and then another expert to give an opinion on her mental state. Either way if they get that that's something else they can include in the next appeal.

I can't see how any of us can deny that if confirmed they were written by shiela and were recent they show that shiela really was still very unwell.

I agree with that.

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I think the main issue regarding these notes is that they need confirmation of sheila mental state and anyone who looks at them know that they are written by someone very unstable. They need it confirmed that it is shields handwriting  and then another expert to give an opinion on her mental state. Either way if they get that that's something else they can include in the next appeal.

I can't see how any of us can deny that if confirmed they were written by shiela and were recent they show that shiela really was still very unwell.

Yes,I can go along with that.
Mental health is really horrendous as I've just learned that someone I've known for years has had to be sectioned and has been an in-patient for quite some time. There was no indication whatsoever a year ago that there was anything wrong.A clever woman who was part of the family and who now doesn't recognise her own son. Absolutely tragic. Granted,she's getting on in years but it still doesn't excuse the suddeness in which the illness had developed or appeared. It's frightening. Her son lives with her and had just mentioned about her having been " a bit down " but he'd put it down to the anniversary of her husband's death some years ago.

[Caroline]

I think the main issue regarding these notes is that they need confirmation of sheila mental state and anyone who looks at them know that they are written by someone very unstable. They need it confirmed that it is shields handwriting  and then another expert to give an opinion on her mental state. Either way if they get that that's something else they can include in the next appeal.

I can't see how any of us can deny that if confirmed they were written by shiela and were recent they show that shiela really was still very unwell.

And if they weren't?

[Jan]

if I was 100% convinced they were found in the house on the day of the murders then I would pay the money myself just to shut you all up !

there you are Mike a challenge to you .

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I like that.

[Caroline]

if I was 100% convinced they were found in the house on the day of the murders then I would pay the money myself just to shut you all up !

there you are Mike a challenge to you .

I'd give you half if I thought they were kosher.

[Jan]

I'd give you half if I thought they were kosher.

As they were supposed to turn up in the colp investigation I might have a search around