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Offline lookout

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #300 on: September 11, 2016, 12:10:PM »
I'm glad my letters don't look like that. ;D  People would definitely think I'd gone barmy.

I'd question the sanity of the writer/author that's for sure. It's written as spoken,in dribs and drabs and no specific order.

It's not that EP found them " illegible ",it was that they were too idle to be bothered deciphering it,as afterall,ANY note whatever its contents is treated as a suicide note where there HAS been a suicide.

This was the HUGE mistake which had been made in the Gilfoyle case where diaries belonging to the deceased were kept " under wraps " for 16 years while Eddie was festering in prison.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #301 on: September 11, 2016, 03:01:PM »



On looking for this guy's name,I came across a post of 2011 telling of " two calls to unknown number/s had made by Sheila at WHF before she killed herself ( of course ) while the line was still open and being monitered.
There is reference to this,as follows :
" At 05.40am,just 5 minutes after the report that the TFU were engaged in conversation with someone inside the farmhouse,the BT operator was asked by Essex Police to once again check the line inside the farmhouse ( which had been previously confirmed as being off the hook ) and at that time the operator reported that the telephone was now engaged-----05.40 am.

Now, that couldn't happen unless there was still someone alive inside the farmhouse at 'that' time, trying to use the phone, or who was using the telephone. Surely, the operator was asked to keep a check on how long the engaged tone lasted?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #302 on: September 11, 2016, 03:50:PM »
(Folder 57) - Item 75...
« Last Edit: September 11, 2016, 04:15:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #303 on: September 11, 2016, 05:59:PM »
I'm finding these notes intriguing!  The one where Sheila writes in large letters de-ciphers to.....

? TO TESTIFIED TO EX HUSBAND OF MINE WHAT TO DO.
HOW DARE HE SAY NOT TO BRING MY SONS WITH ME THEY'RE WHERE THEY BELONG WITH ME HE NEVER WANTED THEM. OH SO SORRY MUMMY HERE I GO AGAIN GETTING ANGRY BUT HE NEVER WAS ANY GOOD.....

Not quite finished the last line.

This note is obviously about Shelia's ex husband Colin. June was worried in the months prior to the murders about the twins being taken into care, was this because Colin wanted the children and the argument on the night of the murders wasn't between Sheila and her parents, ( as the note obviously states Sheila wants to keep the twins, as did her parents) but instead Sheila and her parents discussing ways to help Sheila keep the boys from Colin having them full time. I'm even wondering if Colin bought up the subject again when he took them to WHF on the previous Sunday.   I think Sheila was working with her parents over this, not against as JB states!

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #304 on: September 11, 2016, 06:10:PM »
I'm finding these notes intriguing!  The one where Sheila writes in large letters de-ciphers to.....

? TO TESTIFIED TO EX HUSBAND OF MINE WHAT TO DO.
HOW DARE HE SAY NOT TO BRING MY SONS WITH ME THEY'RE WHERE THEY BELONG WITH ME HE NEVER WANTED THEM. OH SO SORRY MUMMY HERE I GO AGAIN GETTING ANGRY BUT HE NEVER WAS ANY GOOD.....

Not quite finished the last line.

This note is obviously about Shelia's ex husband Colin. June was worried in the months prior to the murders about the twins being taken into care, was this because Colin wanted the children and the argument on the night of the murders wasn't between Sheila and her parents, ( as the note obviously states Sheila wants to keep the twins, as did her parents) but instead Sheila and her parents discussing ways to help Sheila keep the boys from Colin having them full time. I'm even wondering if Colin bought up the subject again when he took them to WHF on the previous Sunday.   I think Sheila was working with her parents over this, not against as JB states!

Good observation, Romeo. There are several ways that letter can be interpreted. Suicide isn't one of them.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #305 on: September 11, 2016, 06:31:PM »
I'm finding these notes intriguing!  The one where Sheila writes in large letters de-ciphers to.....

? TO TESTIFIED TO EX HUSBAND OF MINE WHAT TO DO.
HOW DARE HE SAY NOT TO BRING MY SONS WITH ME THEY'RE WHERE THEY BELONG WITH ME HE NEVER WANTED THEM. OH SO SORRY MUMMY HERE I GO AGAIN GETTING ANGRY BUT HE NEVER WAS ANY GOOD.....

Not quite finished the last line.

This note is obviously about Shelia's ex husband Colin. June was worried in the months prior to the murders about the twins being taken into care, was this because Colin wanted the children and the argument on the night of the murders wasn't between Sheila and her parents, ( as the note obviously states Sheila wants to keep the twins, as did her parents) but instead Sheila and her parents discussing ways to help Sheila keep the boys from Colin having them full time. I'm even wondering if Colin bought up the subject again when he took them to WHF on the previous Sunday.   I think Sheila was working with her parents over this, not against as JB states!

The last line say's 'He was a womaniser'
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #306 on: September 11, 2016, 06:40:PM »
The last line say's 'He was a womaniser'



Yes,and that was obvious-----even on his wedding night.!

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #307 on: September 11, 2016, 06:48:PM »


Yes,and that was obvious-----even on his wedding night.!

I'm just translating the sentence, not passing judgement.
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #308 on: September 11, 2016, 06:49:PM »
The last line say's 'He was a womaniser'

Of course!! Thanks Caroline.  :)

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #309 on: September 11, 2016, 06:49:PM »
Of course!! Thanks Caroline.  :)

Here to help  ;) ;D
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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #310 on: September 11, 2016, 06:53:PM »
I'm just translating the sentence, not passing judgement.



Of course you are.

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #311 on: September 11, 2016, 07:07:PM »
Good observation, Romeo. There are several ways that letter can be interpreted. Suicide isn't one of them.



We'll leave that to the experts,shall we ?

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #312 on: September 11, 2016, 07:12:PM »
(Folder 57) - Item 75...




I can't even decipher that one with my online magnifiying facility let alone my reading one. Jam-jar bottoms next for me.How frustrating and annoying. (  don't suppose binoculars would work :( )

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #313 on: September 11, 2016, 07:28:PM »


We'll leave that to the experts,shall we ?



As I've previously said, right back at ya, Lookout ;)

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Re: Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?
« Reply #314 on: September 11, 2016, 07:33:PM »


We'll leave that to the experts,shall we ?
which experts do you have in mind