Found---handwritten suicide notes. Sheila's ?

[lookout]

I find it more than feasible for it being a suicide letter,from one who'd been afraid of speaking out and who'd told everyone she befriended that " she didn't get on with her mother ". A woman who was so oppressed when she was at WHF that her feelings came to a head.
Even the psychiatrist hadn't taken her seriously when she told him she was afraid she might hurt/harm her sons and had spoken of suicide. This SHOULD have been looked upon as a threat as it is today.

Jeremy can't be blamed for writing it,can he ?

[sami]

No only notes with religious messages dotted around the house, and I don't think this is a suicide note either. Sheila was far too tired to write that last night.

yes that sounds right steve

[Adam]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/707781/Jeremy-Bamber-supporters-claim-police-ignored-sister-suicide-note-white-farm-essex/amp&ved=0ahUKEwiBp9293_zOAhWBWywKHaEYBpAQiJQBCBswAA&usg=AFQjCNHwDgs9AsZqRbg8SXMbp3nuWJ77MA

[Adam]

It says it was written in the period between Sheila killing everyone, and the police arriving. It also says it is 'several hand written pages'. Sheila was certainly busy between 3.26am - 3.48am.

It says it was found in Sheila Caffells bedroom. So she didn't sleep in the main bedroom then ?

The OS were previously saying the note in the bible was a suicide note. Now they are saying Sheila left it in her bedroom. Although read the bible and killed herself in another room.

Is there a source of the exhibits list saying 'hand written note' or something to that effect ?

Which policeman seized it ?

It says the letter has been revealed to campaigners in 2011. Was it included in the 2012 CCRC application ?

After being revealed to campaigners in 2011, it is surprising that it has not come to the publics awareness until 2016. And that 5 years later there is suddenly a request to raise money for forensic tests.

[Adam]

It seems that Sheila killed everyone and then went into her bedroom to write a suicide note of several pages which would have taken several minutes.  No one has seen the suicide note. 

Then went into the main bedroom with the rifle but without the suicide note she had just written. Meaning the suicide note may not be read by anyone.

Then got another persons bible, read it in the dark and shot herself. Twice.

Then put the bible on top of her blood and moved along the floor two feet after the second shot.

I'm not convinced.

[lookout]

The way you work things out I'm not surprised that you're not convinced. You never will be at your rate.

[Adam]

If Sheila wrote the suicide note in her bedroom, then wanted to read June's bible before killing herself, wouldn't it have been easier to leave the rifle and suicide note in her bedroom and go and fetch June's bible  ?

Instead, after writing the suicide note of several pages, she left it where it may never be read. Then took the rifle into the main bedroom to read June's bible and kill herself.

[Adam]

June had 4 bibles in WHF. Where were the other 3 pre massacre ?

Thought one would be in Sheila's room, espescially if she read the bible.

[Caroline]

The way you work things out I'm not surprised that you're not convinced. You never will be at your rate.

There is nothing about these notes that makes them sound like suicide notes after killing the family. Looks to me like someone has trawled through this forum and found Mike's post. In their haste they haven't translated them properly have have seen all kinds of things that simply aren't there - like BLOOD when the work is DIRT!

[lookout]

There is nothing about these notes that makes them sound like suicide notes after killing the family. Looks to me like someone has trawled through this forum and found Mike's post. In their haste they haven't translated them properly have have seen all kinds of things that simply aren't there - like BLOOD when the work is DIRT!

Oh dear,something to repeatedly cling on to now---------the Blood. It's obvious that there are more ramblings in the letter than is seen in Mike's post.
I have things in my copies that aren't even mentioned and " dirt " is written a few times,such as " digging up the dirt that the public will know about ". Explain that one !!

[Caroline]

Oh dear,something to repeatedly cling on to now---------the Blood. It's obvious that there are more ramblings in the letter than is seen in Mike's post.
I have things in my copies that aren't even mentioned and " dirt " is written a few times,such as " digging up the dirt that the public will know about ". Explain that one !!

You explain it in terms of the murders? She's not talking about the murders, she talks about Colin being a 'womaniser' and asking someone to 'investigate' something but nothing about the deaths of the family. She leaves a phone number and talks VERY WELL of her mother. This is another desparate attempt to pass something off as a suicide letter. The letter in the bible was supposed to be a suicide note, turns out it was written by JUNE and that she wrote lots of these notes. The letters and numbers were supposed to be a suicide note but it's just a garbled mess. Now this ...... laughable. I wonder why the CT didn't bother to send the newspaper copies of these notes? 

[lookout]

You explain it in terms of the murders? She's not talking about the murders, she talks about Colin being a 'womaniser' and asking someone to 'investigate' something but nothing about the deaths of the family. She leaves a phone number and talks VERY WELL of her mother. This is another desparate attempt to pass something off as a suicide letter. The letter in the bible was supposed to be a suicide note, turns out it was written by JUNE and that she wrote lots of these notes. The letters and numbers were supposed to be a suicide note but it's just a garbled mess. Now this ...... laughable. I wonder why the CT didn't bother to send the newspaper copies of these notes? 

The letters speak of the psychiatrist looking after her mother and also tells of the psychiatrist giving strength in preparation for when the Sun and Police call. It sounds to me that Sheila was doing the " tidying up " re-arrangeing bodies etc in preparation--------for what ? All are covered in blood apart from herself as she awaits photographers and police.
Final words- "He,SYC,won't let anything happen. Famous last words,eh ?

What you FAIL to understand is that the writer was deranged when writing these notes ( unless you can't tell the difference of course )

Sheila was writing as though God was with her when she'd said " I've come to you because God told me to mummy calm.We are both here with you Bless mummy don't let him see you so hurt.I don't mind him being here while I'm with you ". Sheila speaks of mummy ( Christine ) and mother ( June ).
Sheila also tells " mummy "" that she'll soon be looking at her picture in the paper,but you'll be given a lovely portrait of myself and the twins soon "

[sami]

The letters speak of the psychiatrist looking after her mother and also tells of the psychiatrist giving strength in preparation for when the Sun and Police call. It sounds to me that Sheila was doing the " tidying up " re-arrangeing bodies etc in preparation--------for what ? All are covered in blood apart from herself as she awaits photographers and police.
Final words- "He,SYC,won't let anything happen. Famous last words,eh ?

What you FAIL to understand is that the writer was deranged when writing these notes ( unless you can't tell the difference of course )

Sheila was writing as though God was with her when she'd said " I've come to you because God told me to mummy calm.We are both here with you Bless mummy don't let him see you so hurt.I don't mind him being here while I'm with you ". Sheila speaks of mummy ( Christine ) and mother ( June ).
Sheila also tells " mummy "" that she'll soon be looking at her picture in the paper,but you'll be given a lovely portrait of myself and the twins soon "

how did she manage to rearrange bodies without getting any blood on her

[Caroline]

The letters speak of the psychiatrist looking after her mother and also tells of the psychiatrist giving strength in preparation for when the Sun and Police call. It sounds to me that Sheila was doing the " tidying up " re-arrangeing bodies etc in preparation--------for what ? All are covered in blood apart from herself as she awaits photographers and police.
Final words- "He,SYC,won't let anything happen. Famous last words,eh ?

What you FAIL to understand is that the writer was deranged when writing these notes ( unless you can't tell the difference of course )

Sheila was writing as though God was with her when she'd said " I've come to you because God told me to mummy calm.We are both here with you Bless mummy don't let him see you so hurt.I don't mind him being here while I'm with you ". Sheila speaks of mummy ( Christine ) and mother ( June ).
Sheila also tells " mummy "" that she'll soon be looking at her picture in the paper,but you'll be given a lovely portrait of myself and the twins soon "

Ha, ha! That's just your slant Lookout. Why woud she be saying June was being looked after by a psychiatrist when she had just shot her dead?

[lookout]

how did she manage to rearrange bodies without getting any blood on her

That would account for the broken shower as she'd washed the blood from her,but she still walked through it.