Most on here are guilters.

[guest7363]

Oh really Caroline?. Then please can you explain to me how I can produce the image from the main bedroom to the right of this attachment? 

Can you show a full picture of that 188 Sketch pillow David?

[David1819]

Can you show a full picture of that 188 Sketch pillow David?

No, That's the very right end of the photo, it does no further.

[notsure]

David passes off his opinion as FACT Buddy.

so does adam

[lookout]

A man under stress in August kills his family. Two bodies downstairs, a further three upstairs. No this time Jeremy Bamber was not responsible.  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1691879/teacher-dad-who-slaughtered-his-three-young-sons-and-wife-in-a-frenzied-knife-attack-named/

Reading further into this tragedy it stated how kind and gentle the father was ( description of Sheila ) and all the family had been churchgoers.
What makes a kind gentle person murder their family in this way,including innocent children ?

[Steve_uk]

Reading further into this tragedy it stated how kind and gentle the father was ( description of Sheila ) and all the family had been churchgoers.
What makes a kind gentle person murder their family in this way,including innocent children ?

They have lost all contact with reality at the moment of perpetration, though it might be more accurate to say they have created their own reality in that this is the only course to pursue ,to which the suicide note pinned on the front door attests. A man who thought of everyone's needs except his own, and of course the mounting pressure as he realized he was no longer a young man with the zest which propelled him to a position of authority at the local school.

Yet how could this man, who must have seen two of his sons inside school on a regular basis determine that suicide was the only available course? There were no money worries, his wife did not seem the type to be having an affair, there were no underlying health issues. It seems that as the new school year beckoned it all appeared too much, as the contact time with the children diminished in favour of an ever sprawling bureaucracy, whose uselessness became ever apparent to an intelligent man who bethought suicide over a period, though whose winner takes all philosophy meant that all he was responsible for and had created had to die alongside.  http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-find-second-note-at-cavan-murdersuicide-scene-35007858.html

[lookout]

They have lost all contact with reality at the moment of perpetration, though it might be more accurate to say they have created their own reality in that this is the only course to pursue ,to which the suicide note pinned on the front door attests. A man who thought of everyone's needs except his own, and of course the mounting pressure as he realized he was no longer a young man with the zest which propelled him to a position of authority at the local school.

Yet how could this man, who must have seen two of his sons inside school on a regular basis determine that suicide was the only available course? There were no money worries, his wife did not seem the type to be having an affair, there were no underlying health issues. It seems that as the new school year beckoned it all appeared too much, as the contact time with the children diminished in favour of an ever sprawling bureaucracy, whose uselessness became ever apparent to an intelligent man who bethought suicide over a period, though whose winner takes all philosophy meant that all he was responsible for and had created had to die alongside.  http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-find-second-note-at-cavan-murdersuicide-scene-35007858.html

I still maintain that his mental state didn't suddenly appear so. My guess is that he'd been hiding his illness for some time,but nobody only himself would have been aware of this.
His wife was also a teacher.
Is it worth all the stresses and strains that it takes to strive for a life-style that's seen as an acceptable part of how life should be lived  at the risk of losing it ?

[Steve_uk]

I still maintain that his mental state didn't suddenly appear so. My guess is that he'd been hiding his illness for some time,but nobody only himself would have been aware of this.
His wife was also a teacher.
Is it worth all the stresses and strains that it takes to strive for a life-style that's seen as an acceptable part of how life should be lived  at the risk of losing it ?

You know there is an unhealthy obsession with the league tables which completely loses sight of the individual as pupils are sluiced en masse through a system which may well be more efficient, but which has lost touch with reality, as Alan Howe did those last few months. I checked up on the Castlerahan Primary School, where he was Deputy Head(someone who has to make his superior the Head look good and therefore that much more added pressure) and the Child Protection Policy is just one of many policies which struck my eye:

 St. Mary’s N.S. Castlerahan seeks to help the children to grow and develop into healthy, confident, mature adults, capable of realising their full potential as human beings. We strive to create a happy, safe environment for the children where they feel secure, knowing that if they have concerns, they will be listened to with understanding and respect and their concerns will be addressed.

How these are achieved in practice is an eternal vigilance, which is to the teachers' credit if properly implemented, but the sad fact is there are so many regulations today the job has become impossible, the policy words swimming around in an individual's head as he looks to the next pressing concern.

The problem is the low skilled jobs have disappeared, being shipped off to China, heaping the pressure on those charged with assisting young people to perform, and as you say one has to ask oneself ultimately if it's all worth it.   https://youtu.be/KVw8WzceF6g

[sami]

so does adam

wrong he used to.nowdays he is far more understanding and even changed his mind and agreed maybe the twins were shot first.so no he doesnt ,

[sami]

i must say i find zoe;s appearance n disappearance very odd she started some good threads

[Caroline]

Oh really Caroline?. Then please can you explain to me how I can produce the image from the main bedroom to the right of this attachment? 

Another grainy photograph? Is that the best you can do? 

[sami]

just watched dr shipman on the tv.interestingly he claimed to police 81 year old mrs grundy was a herion addict thats why she had so much morphine in her body.did jb tell any impossible lies like the above

[Adam]

just watched dr shipman on the tv.interestingly he claimed to police 81 year old mrs grundy was a herion addict thats why she had so much morphine in her body.did jb tell any impossible lies like the above

Yes. He said Sheila committed murder/suicide.

[Jane]

just watched dr shipman on the tv.interestingly he claimed to police 81 year old mrs grundy was a herion addict thats why she had so much morphine in her body.did jb tell any impossible lies like the above

He said Sheila could use all the guns in the house.

[David1819]

Another grainy photograph? Is that the best you can do? 

That's all you deserve to see, now listen to yourself

"Of course it's not going to work because you can't post what you haven't got and all this 'you can't trick me into posting them' is just more bluff. You know and I know it. Anyone who believes you needs to have a serious word with themselves!"

[guest7363]

Another grainy photograph? Is that the best you can do? 

He likes it on the Injustice anywhere forum, no one is up to speed on there, they all listen to him taking credit for collecting a vast amount of information  on the case, HA HA.  Nothing to do with Mike then?

David1819 wrote:
Hello everyone. I've just joined this forum to discuss the Jeremy Bamber case. I have noted one user here say "raw material we are lacking here - transcripts, photographs, reports etc."


I have collected a vast amount of information on this case. For those that are interested below in red is the latest court judgement on the case. If anyone wants anymore
transcripts or reports. please let me know