Second thoughts of the twins being shot first: Shooting order resolved ?

[Adam]

It is good that supporters and guilters can be flexible and agree on possibilities. And agree Julie may have been telling the truth. 

In this instance both agreeing the twins could have been shot first.

However I don't agree there is any evidence showing this definately happened, which supporters recently claimed.  No one knows the order of the deaths.

I also don't believe if there ever is evidence the twins were shot first, it means Sheila was the killer, as also recently claimed by supporters. This thread has given several reasons why Bamber would and could have shot the twins first, (once each).

A scenario to match the crime scene has also been created on this thread showing  how Bamber would successfully committ the massacre after shooting the twins first. Which is in contrast to posters recently not being able to explain what Neville was doing when Sheila started shooting the twins. Partly because people did not want discard the 'Neville phoned Chelmsford police' card.

[David1819]

It is good that supporters and guilters can be flexible and agree on possibilities. And agree Julie may have been telling the truth. 

In this instance both agreeing the twins could have been shot first.

However I don't agree there is any evidence showing this definately happened, which supporters recently claimed.  No one knows the order of the deaths.

I also don't believe if there ever is evidence the twins were shot first, it means Sheila was the killer, as also recently claimed by supporters. This thread has given several reasons why Bamber would and could have shot the twins first, (once each).

A scenario to match the crime scene has also been created on this thread showing  how Bamber would successfully committ the massacre after shooting the twins first. Which is in contrast to posters recently not being able to explain what Neville was doing when Sheila started shooting the twins. Partly because people did not want discard the 'Neville phoned Chelmsford police' card.

Its all well and good finding a plausible scenario for Jeremy shooting the twins first, However you still need to get round the time of Sheila's death that proves Jeremy could not have killed her.
Caroline's excuse that hypostasis may not effect children or the elderly sank before it could even set sail   

[Caroline]

Its all well and good finding a plausible scenario for Jeremy shooting the twins first, However you still need to get round the time of Sheila's death that proves Jeremy could not have killed her.
Caroline's excuse that hypostasis may not effect children or the elderly sank before it could even set sail   

Except it didn't say that, it said FOR INSTANCE! So take the cool glasses off, you're about as cool as the after effects of a very hot curry!

[David1819]

Except it didn't say that, it said FOR INSTANCE! So take the cool glasses off, you're about as cool as the after effects of a very hot curry!

Ha! grasping at poppy straws! The glasses are staying!

[Steve_uk]

Its all well and good finding a plausible scenario for Jeremy shooting the twins first, However you still need to get round the time of Sheila's death that proves Jeremy could not have killed her.
Caroline's excuse that hypostasis may not effect children or the elderly sank before it could even set sail   

I'm surprised none of Jeremy's multifarious lawyers has ever mentioned the hypostatis point before. Did Edmund Lawson QC not mention it whilst working pro bono before he had his stroke? What about all the other cab rank legal representatives Jeremy has hailed these past 30 years.

[David1819]

I'm surprised none of Jeremy's multifarious lawyers has ever mentioned the hypostatis point before. Did Edmund Lawson QC not mention it whilst working pro bono before he had his stroke? What about all the other cab rank legal representatives Jeremy has hailed these past 30 years.

Hailed? He sacked them all.

As for the hypostasis, maybe I have found another Colombus egg?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

[Romeo]

Oh you do make me laugh David!

There's JB fighting for his release and hasn't thought in over 30 years to look at and prove by the photos that it was Sheila! ...yet you have...

[David1819]

Oh you do make me laugh David!

There's JB fighting for his release and hasn't thought in over 30 years to look at and prove by the photos that it was Sheila! ...yet you have...

Except he has thought of it but through a different angle. Did you not read the report by the Italian professors?

[Steve_uk]

Except he has thought of it but through a different angle. Did you not read the report by the Italian professors?

Was that before or after Giovanni Di Stefano was sent to prison? I'm reading one pertinent thread now.  http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1180.0/nowap.html

[Caroline]

Oh you do make me laugh David!

There's JB fighting for his release and hasn't thought in over 30 years to look at and prove by the photos that it was Sheila! ...yet you have...

He hasn't found anything, it's already been mentioned in submissions and thrown OUT! Just more of David bragging and wanting credit for what someone else has already mentioned. He even knows himself that hypostasis has already formed part of submissions to the CCRC and was REJECTED. In fact it was David himself who posted the document! 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6955.msg326043.html#msg326043

[Caroline]

Ha! grasping at poppy straws! The glasses are staying!

You see, that's your problem, you see the above the reality will be more like .....

[Caroline]

Except he has thought of it but through a different angle. Did you not read the report by the Italian professors?

And it was REJECTED! Least you're fessing up for once! 

[Caroline]

Hailed? He sacked them all.

As for the hypostasis, maybe I have found another Colombus egg?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

Another? 

The only egg around here is the one around your chops!

[sami]

Oh you do make me laugh David!

There's JB fighting for his release and hasn't thought in over 30 years to look at and prove by the photos that it was Sheila! ...yet you have...

yes romeo, that is funny

[sami]

I always had a fixed view that Bamber entered the main bedroom first. But thanks to Buddy and David have reconsidered.

I don't believe Bamber would have used 7 of 11 bullets on June straight away. Or that June could have moved so much after 7 consecutive bullets.

But if Bamber entered the main bedroom first and fully loaded, then only fired 4 or 5 bullets into June, why didn't he fire the remaining 6 or 7 bullets into Neville upstairs ?

The answer is that he entered the main bedroom with just 9 bullets.

imo he would not of wasted bullets on the twins while the adults were still alive.can never be proved just my opinion