"Hypostasis Worse Indicator of TOD than Rigor Mortis" Professor Bernard Knight

[Jane]

Jeremy was outside in police custody when Sheila's fatal shot was administered self inflicted.

If you look at the position of Junes entire body. You can see she has collapsed backwards while standing up, while she is collapsing the door has forced her upper body and head to change direction slightly while her legs and lower body remain in the original direction. The final two shots were inflicted after she collapsed, whether she was dead or alive when the final two shots were inflicted I don't know.

OR it's possible that her weight -as she fell back against it- forced the door further open? If I'm reading Lookout correctly, it seems that she believes Sheila shot June and June shot Sheila. I fail to see how either could have occurred, from the position of their bodies, and the placement of Sheila's wounds.

[lookout]

I would have said that everyone's blood was on June's nightdress too,including that which spattered/sprayed from wounds outwards towards her. Was the nightdress ever tested ?
 
For June to have walked around,she'd have mustered a hidden strength to which you can't have if you've just got out of bed from being asleep,therefore she'd have been on her feet for a while.

I just know that it wasn't Jeremy who'd shot Sheila.

[Jane]

I would have said that everyone's blood was on June's nightdress too,including that which spattered/sprayed from wounds outwards towards her. Was the nightdress ever tested ?
 
For June to have walked around,she'd have mustered a hidden strength to which you can't have if you've just got out of bed from being asleep,therefore she'd have been on her feet for a while.

I just know that it wasn't Jeremy who'd shot Sheila.

It would help enormously if you could provide a workable scenario of what you believe happened. It does no good to say that X happened when you can't provide a logical/plausible follow-up OR when X can be ruled out.

[David1819]

I would have said that everyone's blood was on June's nightdress too,including that which spattered/sprayed from wounds outwards towards her. Was the nightdress ever tested ?
 
For June to have walked around,she'd have mustered a hidden strength to which you can't have if you've just got out of bed from being asleep,therefore she'd have been on her feet for a while.

I just know that it wasn't Jeremy who'd shot Sheila.

Adrenaline fight or flight kicks in.

[lookout]

It would help enormously if you could provide a workable scenario of what you believe happened. It does no good to say that X happened when you can't provide a logical/plausible follow-up OR when X can be ruled out.

Without putting too much of my own thoughts on paper, I can't answer who'd shot who but I can certainly go along with the fact that the rifle didn't end up on Sheila's body,instead, it was in between the two women,roughly 18" away from Sheila.
PC's Collins and Delgado should both have the decency to come forward and tell the world that they were BOTH unhappy about the position of Sheila along with certain " movements " as in the video of the scene against what they originally saw. In fact,the whole group of them if the truth be known and although they expressed their grievances about the matter,it had been Adams who'd insisted that they were wrong so they went along with their senior ( as one does ) even though both remained to have doubts.

[David1819]

Without putting too much of my own thoughts on paper, I can't answer who'd shot who but I can certainly go along with the fact that the rifle didn't end up on Sheila's body,instead, it was in between the two women,roughly 18" away from Sheila.
PC's Collins and Delgado should both have the decency to come forward and tell the world that they were BOTH unhappy about the position of Sheila along with certain " movements " as in the video of the scene against what they originally saw. In fact,the whole group of them if the truth be known and although they expressed their grievances about the matter,it had been Adams who'd insisted that they were wrong so they went along with their senior ( as one does ) even though both remained to have doubts.

I very much believe the rifle was where it was found. because of the bloodstains to Sheila's neck

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[sami]

It's no use goading me David....   Lookout says you also, at one time, didn't believe SC was guilty. Everyone has the right to change their minds...like it or not.

here here well said romeo.

[buddy]

here here well said romeo.

[guest154]

Goodness me,spelling mistakes now ! I've seen that many on here as well as typo's but I've had the good manners to ignore them ALL, and not just from David !
I did some proofreading in my past and could have picked up at every turn,but that's not what I'm here for !

Naughty little fibber 

You said to me many times about my spelling. And I quote 

Oh you certainly don't do that----------pity about the spelling though.

[Jane]

Naughty little fibber 

You said to me many times about my spelling. And I quote 

Oh you certainly don't do that----------pity about the spelling though.

Heheheheeee Glad I'm not the only one to receive a reprimand

[lookout]

Wow,they've all come out of the woodwork. Strange,but predictable !!

[buddy]

I know absolutely nothing about rigor mortis, and I doubt many on here do.
I can say that I suffered partial rigor in my nether regions, and it resulted in 5 chilren

[Jane]

Wow,they've all come out of the woodwork. Strange,but predictable !!

OI!!! Who d'ya think you're calling "THEY"?

[lookout]

I know absolutely nothing about rigor mortis, and I doubt many on here do.
I can say that I suffered partial rigor in my nether regions, and it resulted in 5 chilren

Buddy,I was a nurse and naturally saw RM along the way. I actually used to take the mortician a cup of tea when I was on nights so visited often.
One ward sister,who did a lot of knitting,took in her skeins of wool to wind into balls, using the feet of a well deceased person------which was carried out by the mortuary attendant.
I'm sure the relatives of that deceased person would have been delighted to have known that they were still of help,even after death.

[buddy]

Buddy,I was a nurse and naturally saw RM along the way. I actually used to take the mortician a cup of tea when I was on nights so visited often.
One ward sister,who did a lot of knitting,took in her skeins of wool to wind into balls, using the feet of a well deceased person------which was carried out by the mortuary attendant.
I'm sure the relatives of that deceased person would have been delighted to have known that they were still of help,even after death.

Love it Lookout