Aftermath, Where is the forensic evidence that Jeremy Bamber killed his family?

[zoe]

i completely disagree with your statement, most people who kill are not in a good place in their lives and are mental health, drugs, jealousy, that is what a criminal barrister told me.

[Jane]

i completely disagree with your statement, most people who kill are not in a good place in their lives and are mental health, drugs, jealousy, that is what a criminal barrister told me.

My facts come from working with Samaritans, counselling training and working with depressives, but it's your prerogative to take the word of a criminal barrister.

[Caroline]

Thats when people DO tend to kill themselves and others! when they are mentally ill

So most killers are mentally ill?

[zoe]

Samaritans! personally i do not rate them as an organisation, Napac fantastic, their work is amazing!  so if my sister in law hadn't have killed herself while depressed, why did she kill herself then? because she was happy? i have got my own mind, most that kill or kill others are not mentally at a good place, not all go onto kill of course not, but is is a major factor.

[zoe]

So most killers are mentally ill?

Refrain from twisting my words please

[Caroline]

Samaritans! personally i do not rate them as an organisation, Napac fantastic, their work is amazing!  so if my sister in law hadn't have killed herself while depressed, why did she kill herself then? because she was happy? i have got my own mind, most that kill or kill others are not mentally at a good place, not all go onto kill of course not, but is is a major factor.

There are lots of reasons why people kill, but for Jeremy, it was just a means to an end.

[Caroline]

Refrain from twisting my words please

Twisting your words? They were my words - it was a question because that's what your post implied.

[Steve_uk]

The distinction between fantasy and reality has evidently become blurred. They have got things grossly out of proportion. Jeremy calmly justified the murders to himself as mercy killings, putting them all out of their misery. The same course of action to alleviate his torment didn't apply to him though.

[zoe]

Im taking it you are an adult? you are desperately trying to get me to make a statement, that all sufferers of mental health issues kill. im not playing your games im afraid.

[sami]

i completely disagree with your statement, most people who kill are not in a good place in their lives and are mental health, drugs, jealousy, that is what a criminal barrister told me.

i totally disagree. any human being can kill and for any reason most are just like you and i .love and greed, jealousy.pervertedness .many reasons

[Jane]

Samaritans! personally i do not rate them as an organisation, Napac fantastic, their work is amazing!  so if my sister in law hadn't have killed herself while depressed, why did she kill herself then? because she was happy? i have got my own mind, most that kill or kill others are not mentally at a good place, not all go onto kill of course not, but is is a major factor.

Your prerogative, of course. Depression is like a trough. Depending on where people are in it will define the depths of their depression. It can fall anywhere on a scale of 1 to 10. Those who rate a 10 won't be capable of raising enough energy to kill. Those around 6-8 are in a dangerous place. Those below that are less likely to be contemplating such actions but it's not set in stone and all depressives need support. I'm sorry about your sister in law.

[sami]

My facts come from working with Samaritans, counselling training and working with depressives, but it's your prerogative to take the word of a criminal barrister.

your an angel jane.helping people in their hour of need.they have saved many lives .its the best in human beings that give their time to stop people taking their own lives

[zoe]

i totally disagree. any human being can kill and for any reason most are just like you and i .love and greed, jealousy.pervertedness .many reasons

Yes, so if you made a spider diagram you could link all of the above to my reasons for killing

[zoe]

Your prerogative, of course. Depression is like a trough. Depending on where people are in it will define the depths of their depression. It can fall anywhere on a scale of 1 to 10. Those who rate a 10 won't be capable of raising enough energy to kill. Those around 6-8 are in a dangerous place. Those below that are less likely to be contemplating such actions but it's not set in stone and all depressives need support. I'm sorry about your sister in law.

But not all people are assessed this way, something acts as their trigger at one point in time,things since the 1980s have changed so much for the better, Thanks it was 1994 so a long time ago, although my nieces are thriving and doing well, she was so beautiful.

[Caroline]

Im taking it you are an adult? you are desperately trying to get me to make a statement, that all sufferers of mental health issues kill. im not playing your games im afraid.

Errrr, that's NOT what I asked at all and I'm not desperately trying to get you to make any statement.

You said

Thats when people DO tend to kill themselves and others! when they are mentally ill

So I asked if you thought all killers were mentally ill and NOT if you thought all people with mental health issues were killers!