jansus it is a pity you feel he has lowered the tone of the forum we have in my short time on here had worse than scipio 
he gets insulted back and never complains it is common place to him.I think he is a "wind up" merchant.
The nature of the insults is why I am so threatening.
Most of the ones lobbed against me don't really matter. Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.
My "insults" are posts that take apart their positions and revela they have no evidentiary foundation for the things they assert. In some instances I demonstrate they are being dishonest. I don't simply say you are being dishonest I explain why they are being dishonest and evidence to support my position.
Grahame posts so many things demonstrating he is a Jeremy supporter including today claiming it is a fact that Jeremy, "DID talk to his father half an hour before police arrived on the scene". Yet he dishonestly suggests he is neutral and not a Jeremy supporter and attacks anyone who dares to call him out and with rare exception that usually is me.
There is a saying "ignorance is bliss". But tha tis not the full saying the rest is typically forgotten. The full saying is actually, "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise". What it means is that if you disturb the willfull ignorance of others you are putting yourself in the danger zone.
So suffering through attacks goes with the territory. I have to expect such attacks and simply roll with the punches.
For me this is not personal because I follow the evidence and facts. People living in willful ignorance choose their position for personal reasons and thus the whole debate is personal to them.
While you have asserted you thought Jeremy is innocent in the past you admitted that you are unsure what to think for certain at the moment because many of the things your rthought to be the case ende dup not being so. Your position is not set in stone you are willing to change your position if evidence demonstrates you should.
While I changed your mind about some things I have not changed them about everything. Some of the things I changed your mind about were nonthreatening to you because you are not dead set on Jeremy being innocent. Those same things undermined what some people want to believe and that to them is a very personal affront.
I basically taunt them to prove me wrong but they can't and that angers and frustrates them. They don't want to change their minds though so attack me and then still repeat the same disproved claims.
Of course I am generalizing because on certain issues some Jeremy supporters are willing to budge. It varies which issue they won't budge on and which ones won't budge at all. The 2 with the least knowledge of the facts are Mike's strongest supporters. Mike takes his knowledge and tries to twist it instead of being upfront and honest. He does this especially with the COLP investigation pretending they found wrongdowing though they did not. Since that has stopped working for him I don't really understand why he doesn't stop and join in the conversations with the rest of us but only he knows his motives...
The rapport I have is usually set by how others act and the nature of what they post. You have not posted anything redicilous or biased so that is why we have not engaged in any squabbles and you don't make things personal like some others do. So even though we don't agree on everything it doesn't matter.
But if you ever so post something totally outrageous and silly I promise to ask you what the heck were you thinking.
