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Offline sami

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2016, 09:52:PM »
It must be incredible how such a dishonest person manages to get so much scientific research to back up his claims  ::)

This study hypothesizes that women are less
likely than men to use suicide methods that disfigure the
face. Gender differences in the use of suicide methods that
disfigure the face were examined using medical examiner’s
files of 621 suicides covering a 10-year period from
Summit County, Ohio in the U.S. Results showed that
while firearms are the preferred method for both women
and men, women were less likely to shoot themselves in the
head. A series of logistic regression analyses revealed that
gender, age, stressful life events and prior suicide attempts
were predictors of methods that disfigure the face/head.
Significant differences between men and women in correlates
of suicide method emerged when the sample was split
by gender. The results support the position that women who
commit suicide are more likely than men who commit
suicide to avoid facial disfiguration.



women were more likely than men to use suicide
methods that would not disfigure their facial appearance.
Additionally, among firearm suicides, women should be
less likely than men to shoot themselves in the face/head.

For example, Cohle’s (1977) analysis of 121 handgun suicides
found that 88.9% of men shot themselves in the head
compared to 48.4% of women

proves what,how many men were involved and how many women in the 121 cases.it shows nearly half of the women shot themselfs in the head,so what

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2016, 10:33:PM »
Yet another American study!

The other day you made a fuss because the study I cited was French

Is this the best counter arguments you can come up with? criticize the nationality of the scientists?  .......... Oh Dear!



 

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #137 on: June 17, 2016, 10:34:PM »
proves what,how many men were involved and how many women in the 121 cases.it shows nearly half of the women shot themselfs in the head,so what

It wouldn't be the choice of weapon here and it doesn't explain why Sheila wouldn't have put the rifle in her mouth - wouldn't have touched her face!
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Offline Caroline

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2016, 10:38:PM »
The other day you made a fuss because the study I cited was French

Is this the best counter arguments you can come up with? criticize the nationality of the scientists?  .......... Oh Dear!

Where?

However, when you're applying science you have to compare like with like and nationality and culture are important - especially in things like suicide rates and types of methods used. If you don't know that then you're always going to post studies that aren't relevant!

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #139 on: June 17, 2016, 10:51:PM »
It wouldn't be the choice of weapon here and it doesn't explain why Sheila wouldn't have put the rifle in her mouth - wouldn't have touched her face!




Where guns are available,they ARE the choice. Sheila's face was in a perfect composure untouched by a firearm !

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« Reply #140 on: June 17, 2016, 10:51:PM »



Where guns are available,they ARE the choice. Sheila's face was in a perfect composure untouched by a firearm !

Where guns are FAMILIAR!
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« Reply #141 on: June 17, 2016, 10:55:PM »
Where guns are FAMILIAR!




AVAILABLE----they are the FIRST and OBVIOUS choice !!

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« Reply #142 on: June 17, 2016, 11:04:PM »



AVAILABLE----they are the FIRST and OBVIOUS choice !!

That's what someone who staged a scene would want you to believe - which is why they left the gun out!
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« Reply #143 on: June 17, 2016, 11:10:PM »
That's what someone who staged a scene would want you to believe - which is why they left the gun out!




 ::) Naturally,but not necessarily JB.

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #144 on: June 17, 2016, 11:58:PM »



 ::) Naturally,but not necessarily JB.

No definitely Jeremy, he said he left the gun out!  ::)
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« Reply #145 on: June 18, 2016, 11:06:AM »
No definitely Jeremy, he said he left the gun out!  ::)





For his father to put away as per,and because the children were staying. ::) Sadly it was grabbed from him by Sheila before he got the chance.

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« Reply #146 on: June 18, 2016, 11:22:AM »




For his father to put away as per,and because the children were staying. ::) Sadly it was grabbed from him by Sheila before he got the chance.

Grabbed from him was it? So he stood there while she looked foe the magazine which wasn't actually attached at the time? Then he also stood there while she fixed it to the rifle and then what?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #147 on: June 18, 2016, 11:39:AM »




For his father to put away as per,and because the children were staying. ::) Sadly it was grabbed from him by Sheila before he got the chance.


Lookout, I recall asking you to present a cohesive and acceptable synopsis of occurrences. The above would appear to be neither.

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« Reply #148 on: June 18, 2016, 11:55:AM »

Lookout, I recall asking you to present a cohesive and acceptable synopsis of occurrences. The above would appear to be neither.




ALL my "28,000" ! posts have covered all that--------not my fault if you've been selective in your reading of them.

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Re: silencer evidence
« Reply #149 on: June 18, 2016, 12:00:PM »
I was wondering if forensics could tell whether any blood present in the silencer had been deposited by the firing of a weapon or had been deliberately put there by a dropper or some other implement, as alleged by Mike and others. I was also wondering whether the photographs taken by PC Bird and cut into strips whereby some had apparently disappeared contained pictures of the mantelpiece without scratches or whether there were none taken of that particular area.