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[David1819]

Strange the Defence didn't make more of the bible or Sheila's illness at trial..

The defence did try to obtain more information about the bible but the police did not give over anything.

Besides they hade the silencer to grapple with that was their priority 

[sami]

so after killing everyone she walks back into the room where the person she disliked the most lying there ,walks around the bed lays on the floor and shoots herself,i find very hard to believe 

[Steve_uk]

so after killing everyone she walks back into the room where the person she disliked the most lying there ,walks around the bed lays on the floor and shoots herself,i find very hard to believe 

It doesn't ring true sami. If she's in psychosis she doesn't know what she's doing properly and could at a pinch land up there, but then in that bewildered state she wouldn't be screwing and unscrewing a silencer.

[sami]

It doesn't ring true sami. If she's in psychosis she doesn't know what she's doing properly and could at a pinch land up there, but then in that bewildered state she wouldn't be screwing and unscrewing a silencer.

thats true steve

[David1819]

so after killing everyone she walks back into the room where the person she disliked the most lying there ,walks around the bed lays on the floor and shoots herself,i find very hard to believe 

She could have entered via the other door 

[David1819]

It doesn't ring true sami. If she's in psychosis she doesn't know what she's doing properly and could at a pinch land up there, but then in that bewildered state she wouldn't be screwing and unscrewing a silencer.

You seem to think someone in psychotic has no clue what they are doing. that is not true

[Caroline]

You seem to think someone in psychotic has no clue what they are doing. that is not true

You have had experience of someone in a psychotic episode?

[lookout]

Ah But who's hand print is it and what is the print made of? that's the crucial point 

June's blood,June's handprint. Simple.

[sami]

June's blood,June's handprint. Simple.

sorry iam a bit confused lookout.what does the above prove

[lookout]

sorry iam a bit confused lookout.what does the above prove

That she herself didn't remain the innocent bystander in all of this. The hand/palm-print on the Bible was only a small one and would point to it having belonged to June. I think she antagonised Sheila as she'd always done.

[sami]

That she herself didn't remain the innocent bystander in all of this. The hand/palm-print on the Bible was only a small one and would point to it having belonged to June. I think she antagonised Sheila as she'd always done.

are you saying she played a part in this affair ,antagonised her when after she had been pumped full of bullets

[lookout]

If Sheila had been as spattered/covered in the amount of blood that June was,there'd have been little doubt of who the shooter would have been.
Let's not forget that June ruined Sheila's life to such an extent and Colin had been anxious about his boys being indoctrinated the same as Sheila had been,so being that many guns were to hand,whether able to use them or not,they became the obvious weapon to use in which to put an end to all the suffering.

[sami]

If Sheila had been as spattered/covered in the amount of blood that June was,there'd have been little doubt of who the shooter would have been.
Let's not forget that June ruined Sheila's life to such an extent and Colin had been anxious about his boys being indoctrinated the same as Sheila had been,so being that many guns were to hand,whether able to use them or not,they became the obvious weapon to use in which to put an end to all the suffering.

sorry lookout thats not what i asked you ,i said do you think she played a part in that mornings events.june was only covered with that amount of blood because of her wounds,theres no reason why sc should have the same amount of blood on her as june,i thought you were saying june picked up the bible after been shot because of her alleged blood print,and started antagonising sheila

[sami]

Ah But who's hand print is it and what is the print made of? that's the crucial point 

david youre saying its junes print,we cant be sure ,but i will agree it is,what does it show to me its just shows that june knowing she was going to die after been shot many times  and in her religious zeal held the bible in her hand to be close to her makers word in her last  seconds.many many people hold on to religious objects in their final breathes,nothing crucial about that.no doubt jb picked it out from her hand or near where she  had  dropped it ,than placed it near sheila

[Caroline]

david youre saying its junes print,we cant be sure ,but i will agree it is,what does it show to me its just shows that june knowing she was going to die after been shot many times  and in her religious zeal held the bible in her hand to be close to her makers word in her last  seconds.many many people hold on to religious objects in their final breathes,nothing crucial about that.no doubt jb picked it out from her hand or near where she  had  dropped it ,than placed it near sheila

I think only Lookout thinks it's June's print Sami. I don't believe anyone had the need to pick up a bible - it was just a prop.