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[lookout]

Funny how you're reluctant to talk about all those who daily live with mental illness and NEVER "go on to   murder".

I didn't say ALL. I also don't know the exact percentage who do go on to murder,do you ? But I know they do and all I asked you was did you know why. What would be their reason ?

[Jane]

I didn't say ALL. I also don't know the exact percentage who do go on to murder,do you ? But I know they do and all I asked you was did you know why. What would be their reason ?

But you insist that Sheila HAS to be -MUST be- one of that, I'm willing to bet, VERY tiny number. To know why, we have to break down the numbers into age, sex, status, ethnicity and numerous other variables.

[sami]

But you insist that Sheila HAS to be -MUST be- one of that, I'm willing to bet, VERY tiny number. To know why, we have to break down the numbers into age, sex, status, ethnicity and numerous other variables.

its just an excuse jane,lets face it ,jb used it to expertly,thats why he was eager to know when sheila and the twins were coming 

[lookout]

But you insist that Sheila HAS to be -MUST be- one of that, I'm willing to bet, VERY tiny number. To know why, we have to break down the numbers into age, sex, status, ethnicity and numerous other variables.

I asked you why do you think they'd commit murder,for what reason ? I didn't expect a half-baked answer that meant nothing.

[sami]

I asked you why do you think they'd commit murder,for what reason ? I didn't expect a half-baked answer that meant nothing.

there could be a million reasons WHY,thats what 'numerous other variables means',come on now

[Jane]

I asked you why do you think they'd commit murder,for what reason ? I didn't expect a half-baked answer that meant nothing.

The "WHY" still has to be broken down, Lookout. We can't get an answer from the few who commit suicide after murdering. Some of the others may not know. Some may say that they heard voices -I don't recall it ever being mentioned that Sheila was one of that number. Some may say that they felt under attack.

Had there been any incidences of Sheila EVER having attacked anyone previously -and I refuse to accept that the marital spats fell in that category- the might be some credence to what you believe, but as it stands, all you appear to be doing is using her illness and adding everything, including the kitchen sink to the mix, to make her and/or June, guilty. Not so different from what Jeremy did, really.

[lookout]

The "WHY" still has to be broken down, Lookout. We can't get an answer from the few who commit suicide after murdering. Some of the others may not know. Some may say that they heard voices -I don't recall it ever being mentioned that Sheila was one of that number. Some may say that they felt under attack.

Had there been any incidences of Sheila EVER having attacked anyone previously -and I refuse to accept that the marital spats fell in that category- the might be some credence to what you believe, but as it stands, all you appear to be doing is using her illness and adding everything, including the kitchen sink to the mix, to make her and/or June, guilty. Not so different from what Jeremy did, really.

If Jeremy had had Sheila's background then there'd have been no question about who committed the murders. Right ?

[sami]

If Jeremy had had Sheila's background then there'd have been no question about who committed the murders. Right ?

not at all .one would still have to look at the evidence

[Jane]

If Jeremy had had Sheila's background then there'd have been no question about who committed the murders. Right ?

Well, let's put it this way. If Sheila had been heard to say that she hated her parents or would have no problem killing them or had talked about who would own  what if the house caught fire, there'd certainly  be more of a question mark there.

[sami]

lets not forget that both jb and nb were fighting for their lives in the kitchen,YES JB ASWELL.because he knew if neville got the better of him he would be facing more than just life inprisonment he would get recommended term,iam sure he was fully aware of what childkillers get in prison.hence the rule 43

[lookout]

Well, let's put it this way. If Sheila had been heard to say that she hated her parents or would have no problem killing them or had talked about who would own  what if the house caught fire, there'd certainly  be more of a question mark there.

Didn't Sheila go round telling all her friends including the psychiatrist that she didn't get on with her mother ? Didn't Sheila tell her psychiatrist that she could kill her children ? Wasn't the psychiatrist aware of Sheila's volatile relationship with her mother ?

[lookout]

Why did Colin dislike June ?

[Jane]

Didn't Sheila go round telling all her friends including the psychiatrist that she didn't get on with her mother ? Didn't Sheila tell her psychiatrist that she could kill her children ? Wasn't the psychiatrist aware of Sheila's volatile relationship with her mother ?

Yes. She said those things when she was ill the first time in 1983. During her 1985 illness she barely mentioned her family but she did tell AE that she was looking forward to seeing the boys.

[Steve_uk]

Why did Colin dislike June ?

He thought that she had poisoned her mind with religious zealotry(Colin used more prosaic expressions)and indeed June was a control freak par excellence until the end when she finally lost control..

[sami]

Why did Colin dislike June ?

we give in ,tell us why