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Offline buddy

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Who sowed the seeds
« on: May 09, 2016, 04:18:PM »
IF Jeremy committed the murders [which I still think was a two person crime] who put the idea into his head?
There are a few people including Julie. For obvious reasons Jeremy cannot say.
It is quite plausible that Julie was in on it.
Some one had to have Influenced JB as he had plenty of times he could done away with Ralph in some sort of farm accident, which are common.
It would of been a huge risk to attack the whole family, as Ralph was a strong man.

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2016, 05:07:PM »
 This is why I say that Jeremy didn't carry out the killings because if he'd have threatened his father with a rifle,Neville would have planted one on him. Less likely to do that if it was a woman. Jeremy would have been no match against his father,rifle or not as I'm sure Neville would have held his own against another man. Jeremy was a squirt against his father
Besides,it wouldn't/didn't enter Jeremy's head to carry out such a massacre. My views,anyway.

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2016, 06:41:PM »
But Nevill was a shadow of his former self those past few months, so much so that Barbara Wilson inquired if he had cancer. There was no point just doing away with Nevill as with him only out of the way his estate would pass to June.

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2016, 06:47:PM »
This is why I say that Jeremy didn't carry out the killings because if he'd have threatened his father with a rifle,Neville would have planted one on him. Less likely to do that if it was a woman. Jeremy would have been no match against his father,rifle or not as I'm sure Neville would have held his own against another man. Jeremy was a squirt against his father
Besides,it wouldn't/didn't enter Jeremy's head to carry out such a massacre. My views,anyway.


"Planted one on him", HOW, Lookout? Jeremy standing at least the loaded rifle's length away from him and Nevill already injured? Hm. What do you think Nevill would -COULD- have done?

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Re: Who sowed the seeds
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2016, 07:02:PM »
IF Jeremy committed the murders [which I still think was a two person crime] who put the idea into his head?
There are a few people including Julie. For obvious reasons Jeremy cannot say.
It is quite plausible that Julie was in on it.
Some one had to have Influenced JB as he had plenty of times he could done away with Ralph in some sort of farm accident, which are common.
It would of been a huge risk to attack the whole family, as Ralph was a strong man.

Why does someone have to have influences him? There are lost of people who have killed their family for money and they have done so because of greed. THAT is the only influence they need.
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Re: Who sowed the seeds
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2016, 07:04:PM »

"Planted one on him", HOW, Lookout? Jeremy standing at least the loaded rifle's length away from him and Nevill already injured? Hm. What do you think Nevill would -COULD- have done?

So he could stand up to Jeremy - but not to Sheila?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2016, 07:12:PM »

"Planted one on him", HOW, Lookout? Jeremy standing at least the loaded rifle's length away from him and Nevill already injured? Hm. What do you think Nevill would -COULD- have done?





Right---so change that scenario to Sheila !!

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 07:14:PM »
IF Jeremy committed the murders [which I still think was a two person crime] who put the idea into his head?
There are a few people including Julie. For obvious reasons Jeremy cannot say.
It is quite plausible that Julie was in on it.
Some one had to have Influenced JB as he had plenty of times he could done away with Ralph in some sort of farm accident, which are common.
It would of been a huge risk to attack the whole family, as Ralph was a strong man.

If Bamber needed help, that rules out Sheila as a loan killer.

Who do you think helped Bamber ? A friend, relative or someone he met in the pub ?

How would the accomplice help him ? Only one rifle was needed. One window was needed and everyone was asleep. Bamber would be throwing away a large chunk of his inheritance on someone he didn't need.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2016, 07:17:PM »
Neville, June and Sheila sowed the seeds for Bamber.

He didn't like his situation and knew it was only going to get worse. He wanted to be the man he was for one month after the massacre, a popular travelling play boy.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Who sowed the seeds
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2016, 07:19:PM »




Right---so change that scenario to Sheila !!

But what is there to suggest that Sheila knew how to handle a gun?

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 07:19:PM »
 Jeremy wasn't even aware of another " large chuck of inheritance " at the time------in the form of the land deal,so why would he throw all that away for a prison sentence ? The relatives all knew about that ! Strange isn't it ? Neither Jeremy nor June knew.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2016, 07:25:PM »
Jeremy wasn't even aware of another " large chuck of inheritance " at the time------in the form of the land deal,so why would he throw all that away for a prison sentence ? The relatives all knew about that ! Strange isn't it ? Neither Jeremy nor June knew.


Why are you SO certain that Jeremy "wasn't even aware..........." or that "Neither Jeremy nor June knew"? Jeremy -nor ANY other person considering committing a crime- think about prison. If they did, they wouldn't do it.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 07:32:PM »
But what is there to suggest that Sheila knew how to handle a gun?









In the statements of DB and AP. Oh,and PE when he could make up his mind properly and before what he'd said was edited/typed out when re-written.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2016, 07:35:PM »




In the statements of DB and AP.

Where?
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2016, 07:35:PM »