What makes Bamber innocent?

[Adam]

Where is the link to the post where Jan and I discussed Sheila sleeping with Nevill? 

No, no one off the board has suggested it - AND? Why are you so surprised? Probably because you have never had an original thought in your life!

I'm not going to spend hours looking for something. It's water under the bridge now.

I only said in one post that I didn't believe Sheila slept with Neville. After, in my view it had been discussed earlier.

Several posters then ganged up on me and a moderator accused me of making a 'sick joke'. The alleged 'sick joke' was never quoted despite my request.

I don't mind you and other posters ganging up on me. It happened from day one when you and other supporters spent months ferouciously defending Bamber and saying he was innocent.

All these supporters have now either changed stance or left the forum. The remaining ex supporters will automatically disagree with a lot of what I post as routine. Most recently disagreeing with me and saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

You brought Sheila and Neville up earlier this week to goad me, as you were so chuffed when you thought you had proven me wrong on another issue. Not realising that you were wrong and 'off' means away from the board.

[Jane]

I'm not going to spend hours looking for something. It's water under the bridge now.

I only said in one post that I didn't believe Sheila slept with Neville. After, in my view it had been discussed a couple of days earlier.

Several posters then ganged up on me and a moderator accused me of making a 'sick joke'. The alleged 'sick joke' was never quoted despite my request.

I don't mind you and other posters ganging up on me. It happened from day one when you and other supporters spent months ferouciously defending Bamber and saying he was innocent.

All these supporters have now either changed stance or left the forum. The remaining ex supporters will automatically disagree with a lot of what I post as routine. Most recently disagreeing with me and saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

You brought Sheila and Neville up earlier this week to goad me, as you were so chuffed when you thought you had proven me wrong. Not realising that you were wrong and 'off' means away from the board.

So you're not prepared to "spend hours looking for something" -yet you expect it of others- you prefer to post your own, twisted version and insist that other versions are wrong.

 To say you "didn't believe Sheila slept with Nevill was sly -but that's how you present yourself so naturally it's what you're perceived to be- because it implies that others had said she did.


I think you'll find it's possible that many -both supporters and detractors- here regard you as being the "sick joke".

I still insist that it wouldn't be possible to pull up a pj jacket -to perform some kind of ritual- from a body slumped over at the waist. It MIGHT be possible to raise it as far as the arm pits but keeping it in that position would be questionable. However, you present yourself as being far too dishonest to admit to being wrong, so I'm not at all surprised that you say you accomplished it on yourself.

It surprises me that although you've just said that you're "not going to spend hours looking for something" you're able to make such a sweeping statement that no one "off"/AWAY FROM the board has made mention of Sheila and Nevill. Away from this board covers a vast area. Surely you'll have done a search to prove your point? Why do I doubt it?

[Adam]

So you're not prepared to "spend hours looking for something" -yet you expect it of others- you prefer to post your own, twisted version and insist that other versions are wrong.

 To say you "didn't believe Sheila slept with Nevill was sly -but that's how you present yourself so naturally it's what you're perceived to be- because it implies that others had said she did.


I think you'll find it's possible that many -both supporters and detractors- here regard you as being the "sick joke".

I still insist that it wouldn't be possible to pull up a pj jacket -to perform some kind of ritual- from a body slumped over at the waist. It MIGHT be possible to raise it as far as the arm pits but keeping it in that position would be questionable. However, you present yourself as being far too dishonest to admit to being wrong, so I'm not at all surprised that you say you accomplished it on yourself.

It surprises me that although you've just said that you're "not going to spend hours looking for something" you're able to make such a sweeping statement that no one "off"/AWAY FROM the board has made mention of Sheila and Nevill. Away from this board covers a vast area. Surely you'll have done a search to prove your point? Why do I doubt it?

I'm sorry but you're the 'sick joke'.

Spending 29 years supporting Bamber because you didn't like Julie's court outfit. Now spending more time than anyone else on this board, all day every day,  saying not very much.

My 10 second 'forensic evidence breakthrough' showed it is possible to pull my shirt up to the top of my shoulder blades in Neville's position. It stayed there. I knew this would be the case beforehand, but did this as you were pointlessly saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

I have said no one 'off' the board has ever said Sheila slept with June. But will be delighted to be proved wrong.

[mike tesko]

In my view, the three burn marks made to the back of Ralph Bambers neck, were caused when the muzzle of the (.22) BSA air rifle, were held a different angles to the back of his neck at different times, and the weapon (minus a pellet) was discharged...

In all three examples, shown of the actual so called burn marks on the back of his neck, display evidence of 'blistering' where the air from the blast was captured beneath, or around the flesh associated with each of his wounds:-

[Jane]

I'm sorry but you're the 'sick joke'.

Spending 29 years supporting Bamber because you didn't like Julie's court outfit. Now spending more time than anyone else on this board, all day every day,  saying not very much.

My 10 second 'forensic evidence breakthrough' showed it is possible to pull my shirt up to the top of my shoulder blades in Neville's position. It stayed there. I knew this would be the case beforehand, but did this as you were pointlessly saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

I have said no one 'off' the board has ever said Sheila slept with June. But will be delighted to be proved wrong.

I imagine a poll would tell us exactly how popular you are, Adam. You've certainly got the prize for being the only one here whose removal has been requested by members.

Yes, many things about me have changed in the past 30 years, but Julie's taste in clothes remains questionable.Perhaps you're a stalker? WEIRD to even be bothered to look at how often people are here.

Of course your top remained up when you Oh, SO easily accomplished it. From you, I wouldn't have expected otherwise. So much easier on one's own, living body, from a position of ease of access, than another's dead and slumped body, isn't it?

My question was -given that you refuse to spend hours looking- how do you know that Sheila and Nevill haven't been mentioned OFF/away from this board?

PS Have just seen that Mike has mentioned the back of Nevill's neck as being the site of the "burns". WHY would the jacket have needed to be pulled up from the waist -getting stuck at arm pit level- to burn the neck area?

[mike tesko]

In all three examples, shown of the actual so called burn marks on the back of his neck, display evidence of 'blistering' where the air from the blast was captured beneath, or around the flesh associated with each of his wounds:-

Look closely, here...

[maggie]

I'm sorry but you're the 'sick joke'.

Spending 29 years supporting Bamber because you didn't like Julie's court outfit. Now spending more time than anyone else on this board, all day every day,  saying not very much.

My 10 second 'forensic evidence breakthrough' showed it is possible to pull my shirt up to the top of my shoulder blades in Neville's position. It stayed there. I knew this would be the case beforehand, but did this as you were pointlessly saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

I have said no one 'off' the board has ever said Sheila slept with June. But will be delighted to be proved wrong.

Hi Adam, even if 'no one off the board has ever said Sheila slept with June' that is not proof it didn't happen. 

Posters do not need to slavishly follow other people's beliefs. Original thought can open up new areas of thought and suggestion. 

The suggestion that Sheila MAY have slept in the main bedroom to be within earshot of the twins is not incredible or impossible unless you can disprove this with hard evidence rather than just your opinions and theories.

The fact you may be able to pull your shirt up to the top of your shoulder blades proves nothing except that you can do this thing. 

Nevill would have been a dead weight by the time anyone tried to pull up his pyjama top, he was very probably a different build and age to you and as far as we know he was bent forward therefore pretty much impossible for one person to move into the position as he would have been very heavy and cumbersome.

I don't say it didn't happen but rather am questioning how and why anyone would bother to do such a thing at such a time.

[Jane]

Hi Adam, even if 'no one off the board has ever said Sheila slept with June' that is not proof it didn't happen. 

Posters do not need to slavishly follow other people's beliefs. Original thought can open up new areas of thought and suggestion. 

The suggestion that Sheila MAY have slept in the main bedroom to be within earshot of the twins is not incredible or impossible unless you can disprove this with hard evidence rather than just your opinions and theories.

The fact you may be able to pull your shirt up to the top of your shoulder blades proves nothing except that you can do this thing. 

Nevill would have been a dead weight by the time anyone tried to pull up his pyjama top, he was very probably a different build and age to you and as far as we know he was bent forward therefore pretty much impossible for one person to move into the position as he would have been very heavy and cumbersome.

I don't say it didn't happen but rather am questioning how and why anyone would bother to do such a thing at such a time.

For all Adam's bombast and bluster, I can't recall him EVER posting anything other than his own opinion which he masks as facts. He leaves original thought to others and then, for the most part, sneers and derides them.

[lookout]

Look closely, here...

The burns are graduated in that whatever it was was hot to start with then lost so much of its intensity----as in a metal object which cools slowly,going from a second degree burn to a first degree.
A poker would have caused more of a third/subcutaneous degree wound as heat is held in iron, so although I've said a poker I realise that heat damage/levels when used towards abusing someone would have gone deeper.
It's either the end of a lit cigar or barrel of a rapidly fired rifle-------------without the silencer.
 

[Caroline]

I'm not going to spend hours looking for something. It's water under the bridge now.

I only said in one post that I didn't believe Sheila slept with Neville. After, in my view it had been discussed earlier.

Several posters then ganged up on me and a moderator accused me of making a 'sick joke'. The alleged 'sick joke' was never quoted despite my request.

I don't mind you and other posters ganging up on me. It happened from day one when you and other supporters spent months ferouciously defending Bamber and saying he was innocent.

All these supporters have now either changed stance or left the forum. The remaining ex supporters will automatically disagree with a lot of what I post as routine. Most recently disagreeing with me and saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

You brought Sheila and Neville up earlier this week to goad me, as you were so chuffed when you thought you had proven me wrong on another issue. Not realising that you were wrong and 'off' means away from the board.

They ganged up on you because no one said that Sheila slept with Nevill. What was said that that Nevill may have selt in Sheila's room - THUS Sheila slept in the main bedroom. I would never even contemplate that Sheila would sleep with Nevill and Jan wouldn't either. I'm sure you have searched for the so called 'discussion' you mentioned in your last post but couldn't find any such posts. The reason you couldn't find them is because they didn't exist in the first place!

[David1819]

My 10 second 'forensic evidence breakthrough' showed it is possible to pull my shirt up to the top of my shoulder blades in Neville's position. It stayed there. I knew this would be the case beforehand, but did this as you were pointlessly saying Bamber couldn't pull Neville's pyjama top up.

Wahay! For the first time ever you have some real forensic evidence for your 'library'. You can pull your pajamas over your head!

[lebaleb]

If there were any evidence of sexual relationships within the family and if it had a bearing on the case then one shouldn't close ones mind because it's distasteful. However, in this case there is no evidence. Speculating on such things is pointless and takes the discussion into fantasy land.

[Caroline]

If there were any evidence of sexual relationships within the family and if it had a bearing on the case then one shouldn't close ones mind because it's distasteful. However, in this case there is no evidence. Speculating on such things is pointless and takes the discussion into fantasy land.

No one other than Adam was/is speculating on it.

[Jane]

If there were any evidence of sexual relationships within the family and if it had a bearing on the case then one shouldn't close ones mind because it's distasteful. However, in this case there is no evidence. Speculating on such things is pointless and takes the discussion into fantasy land.

Fantasy land may be Adam's place of residence.

[Caroline]

I have said no one 'off' the board has ever said Sheila slept with June. But will be delighted to be proved wrong.

What has THAT got to do with anything?