What makes Bamber innocent?

[Adam]

Another reason Bamber may have taken the silencer off, is he was worried it might melt if burnt.

The police would ask why the silencer on the rifle or next to Sheila, was burnt, and then relate it to Neville's burn marks. A rifle nozzle would be more resistant.

[David1819]

Another reason Bamber may have taken the silencer off, is he was worried it might melt if burnt.

The silencer is made of steel. That only melts past 1300 degrees C

[Adam]

The silencer is made of steel. That only melts past 1300 degrees C

I didn't know that. It seems very small and weak. I wonder if Bamber did ?

I assume the rifle nozzle was just as strong.

[Adam]

I wonder why the defence did not bring up Neville's burn marks ? They could get an expert to claim the burn marks were caused without the silencer.

The trouble is the jury would not believe Sheila would suddenly stop to heat a rifle in the middle of a crazy rage.
 

[David1819]

Spider bites?

[Adam]

The trouble is they are 'burn marks' on Neville's back.

[Adam]

Maybe they are rabbit bites. Or from Crispy.

[David1819]

Maybe they are rabbit bites. Or from Crispy.

Don't get me wrong I do think they were caused by the barrel of the gun. However from your point of view it poses problems.

1. It shows the silencer being off the gun

2. There is no rational or level headed reason to inflict those wounds. Thus indicating the killer was irrational and unbalanced (Sheila)

[Steve_uk]

Don't get me wrong I do think they were caused by the barrel of the gun. However from your point of view it poses problems.

1. It shows the silencer being off the gun

2. There is no rational or level headed reason to inflict those wounds. Thus indicating the killer was irrational and unbalanced (Sheila)

1. A silencer can be screwed on and unscrewed.

2. The reason was to check whether Nevill was dead. Why do you think Jeremy told Police his sister had recently indulged in target practice if he did not want to delay the Raid Team entry and deny first aid of any kind?

[Adam]

Don't get me wrong I do think they were caused by the barrel of the gun. However from your point of view it poses problems.

1. It shows the silencer being off the gun

2. There is no rational or level headed reason to inflict those wounds. Thus indicating the killer was irrational and unbalanced (Sheila)

  I've agreed the burn marks were caused by Bamber after he took the silencer off.

It's why the silencer was found in a box in the gun cupboard with human/Sheila's blood, aga paint and a grey hair in.

Or was that due to the 'treacherous' Stan Jones ?

[David1819]

1. A silencer can be screwed on and unscrewed.

2. The reason was to check whether Nevill was dead. Why do you think Jeremy told Police his sister had recently indulged in target practice if he did not want to delay the Raid Team entry and deny first aid of any kind?

I think Jeremy could work out Neville would be dead after five shots to the head.

It makes no sense to heat up the barrel and poke someone

Jeremy told Police his sister had recently indulged in target practice? were did you get that from?

Why would Jeremy sit in his cell for 25 years to wait for someone else to work this out when it shows the silencer being off?

[David1819]

I've agreed the burn marks were caused by Bamber after he took the silencer off.

It's why the silencer was found in a box in the gun cupboard with human/Sheila's blood, aga paint and a grey hair in.

Or was that due to the 'treacherous' Stan Jones ?

There is no rational reason for Jeremy to heat up the barrel and poke Neville.

1. He could have worked out Neville was motionless with shots to the face/head

2. If he wanted to make sure he could just have fired a few more rounds

[Steve_uk]

But you are attributing a routine and a logic to a paranoid schizophrenic who had no such reason. It's documented by one of the cops outside White House Farm how Jeremy embellished Sheila's shooting prowess.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5948.msg264525.html#msg264525

There is a thread on the Aizona Tests. Talk about a waste of money. And time.

I suspect Bamber waited 25 years to bring it up because it didn't really assist him. People will also immediately ask whether an out of control Sheila would suddenly stop going 'crazy' and have the thought and composure to burn Neville's back. It is much more likely Bamber would, to check for signs of life. Thread created.

The results from Bamber's experts just means Bamber took off the silencer prior to burning Neville's back. However as David said the silencer would not melt in the aga so he may have burnt Neville's back with the silencer attached. Then fired more shots into June, Neville, & Sheila.

The CCRC agreed the Arizona tests meant nothing.

[Adam]

But you are attributing a routine and a logic to a paranoid schizophrenic who had no such reason. It's documented by one of the cops outside White House Farm how Jeremy embellished Sheila's shooting prowess.

Hey, Sheila -

Loaded twice.

Chambered twice.

Fired 26 bullets killing her family.

Brutally beat Neville.

Had a shower.

Changed.

Got the bible.

Read the bible.

Wrote a suicide note.

Shot herself once in the kitchen.

Put the silencer away.


All in 22 minutes after Neville had phoned the forth furthest away police station. Which is the exact same forth furthest away police station Bamber had phoned.

If she can do all that in 22 minutes, surely she can heat the rifle and burn Neville's back as well, can't she ?