What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

He let the cat out of the bag, information which stunned senior officers, because leaked information about the mark around the lower entry wound on Sheila's neck meant that she could not have shot herself 'twice' with use of the same rifle that cops had photographed on her body, since 'it' had no silencer attached to it...

What became apparent when news about the mark was leaked to relatives by PC 'Bobby ' Carr, was that cops knew the mark existed, and they knew that it had been caused by the silencer on the weapon which cops had shot Sheila with in the kitchen upon entry...

[Adam]

Hi Adam,  how do you believe JB was able to heat the rifle end to such a temperature it caused those burns on Nevill's back?

I have no idea. But me, David, Bamber and Dr Caroso believe they were caused on the massacre night.

Do you have another explanation for Neville's burn marks ?

[sami]

Hi Adam,  how do you believe JB was able to heat the rifle end to such a temperature it caused those burns on Nevill's back?

was there a fire poker in the kitchen.maggie

[sami]

I have no idea. But me, David, Bamber and Dr Caroso believe they were caused on the massacre night.

Do you have another explanation for Neville's burn marks ?

i have read ,that they were not made at the time of the murders but before.did neville's pyjamas top show signs of burnt fabric cause it surely had to burn the fabric first before reaching the skin

[Adam]

I find it really hard to believe that either JB or Sheila would have gone to all the trouble of heating up the end of the rifle to test for signs of life.  Surely there are far more efficient ways of checking, such as a bullet between the eyes.  To heat the rifle end to the required temperature would mean shoving it into a very hot fire such as the aga fire but surely that would waste time.  I am not convinced by this at all.

Bamber had time. Sheila didn't.

[Adam]

i have read ,that they were not made at the time of the murders but before.did neville's pyjamas top show signs of burnt fabric cause it surely had to burn the fabric first before reaching the skin

There were no signs of burnt fabric.

Bamber pulled up Neville's pyjama top. He didn't want the burn marks to become an issue as he knew Sheila in a rage would not be calculated enough to do this.

[Adam]

Sheila would have just burnt through the fabric. Or burnt his head or neck.

[sami]

There were no signs of burnt fabric.

Bamber pulled up Neville's pyjama top. He didn't want the burn marks to become an issue as he knew Sheila in a rage would not be calculated enough to do this.

i respect your opinion adam.but my view is there was no need for it so he didnt do it.rather than burning him he could have made sure with a shot to the heart.

[Adam]

i respect your opinion adam.but my view is there was no need for it so he didnt do it.rather than burning him he could have made sure with a shot to the heart.

So what are the three burn marks on Neville's back ?

[Jane]

There were no signs of burnt fabric.

Bamber pulled up Neville's pyjama top. He didn't want the burn marks to become an issue as he knew Sheila in a rage would not be calculated enough to do this.

I would have thought, given that it was his neck area which was burned, it would have been far easier to have pulled the pyjama top down from the neck-line rather than up from the waist. In fact I can't imagine, as he was wearing the top, which wouldn't have been other than fitted, that it would have gone up far enough, the arm pits restricting further movement, to allow for burning skin without burning material.

[Adam]

As said earlier, burning Neville's back was just as easy as reloading and firing more shots.

Or he was burning and then firing another shot. Until he was confident Neville was dead.

[Jane]

As said earlier, burning Neville's back was just as easy as reloading and firing more shots.

Or he was burning and then firing another shot. Until he was confident Bamber was dead.

But NOT by pulling the jacket up, and exposing the area above the shoulder blades, from the waist.

[Caroline]

But NOT by pulling the jacket up, and exposing the area above the shoulder blades, from the waist.

Someone would have had to take off the PJ jacket make the burn marks and then put it back on. I think those marks are a red herring.

[sami]

So what are the three burn marks on Neville's back ?

i havent a clue adam.but the post i read said they were made before because something about the edges showing signs of healing.thats what i read

[Adam]

i havent a clue adam.but the post i read said they were made before because something about the edges showing signs of healing.thats what i read

It's ok for people to refute Dr Caroso, Bamber, the 2002 appeal and other supporters/guilters such as me and David.

But just saying 'I don't know' when asked about what else the burn marks are, is insufficient.