What makes Bamber innocent?

[lookout]

hi lookout, im pleased your back for one. are you saying that jb now has all pii and everythings been released or are you saying that thd ct have assembled all previous information and have realised some information is in them that they didnt know of before hand.

The bit where you quote jeremys words, are they recent or is this something hes said before?

Hi notsure,so far as  can gather, when relevant documents were obtained it was a case of them being put into consecutive order to make them legible and once it was realised that things didn't add up as regards who found what silencer,it was beginning to sink in as JB continued to read the twisted evidence of the silencer of which all who were involved in the testing,etc were either directly corrupting the evidence or assisting EP in concealing that it had been Stan Jones who'd found it in the gun cupboard on the morning of the 7th of August. ( SBJ/1 ) If that wasn't bad enough,over a month later the DB/1 cropped up which proved to be the catalyst that implicated JB,as it had red paint on it from where the fireplace had been scratched because the marks weren't there on the night of the murders.

JB hasn't got all the documents as yet,but he went on to admit that he " wasn't a very bright spark " prior to him having read the said documents,but as soon as he lay his hands on them he could see exactly what had been done,then piecing them together became an easy process.

This is recent progress and he's limited to anything else he could say. He did say the fan would get a hit,but politely said " poo " and not what I quoted.
JB naturally wants complaints to be made to the Home Office,COLP ( who knew all along of the false evidence regarding the silencer ) plus the IPCC,as JB went on to say that it's a " rats nest of corruption ".   

[notsure]

Oh i see thanks for tbat.

[Steve_uk]

Hi notsure,so far as  can gather, when relevant documents were obtained it was a case of them being put into consecutive order to make them legible and once it was realised that things didn't add up as regards who found what silencer,it was beginning to sink in as JB continued to read the twisted evidence of the silencer of which all who were involved in the testing,etc were either directly corrupting the evidence or assisting EP in concealing that it had been Stan Jones who'd found it in the gun cupboard on the morning of the 7th of August. ( SBJ/1 ) If that wasn't bad enough,over a month later the DB/1 cropped up which proved to be the catalyst that implicated JB,as it had red paint on it from where the fireplace had been scratched because the marks weren't there on the night of the murders.

JB hasn't got all the documents as yet,but he went on to admit that he " wasn't a very bright spark " prior to him having read the said documents,but as soon as he lay his hands on them he could see exactly what had been done,then piecing them together became an easy process.

This is recent progress and he's limited to anything else he could say. He did say the fan would get a hit,but politely said " poo " and not what I quoted.
JB naturally wants complaints to be made to the Home Office,COLP ( who knew all along of the false evidence regarding the silencer ) plus the IPCC,as JB went on to say that it's a " rats nest of corruption ".

Could we just reiterate that the silencer evidence does not automatically make Jeremy innocent, but might indicate that the relatives planted this evidence when in the early days of the investigation their suspicions of Jeremy had not been taken seriously by DCI Taff Jones. Of course this is not necessarily the case, and I would welcome full disclosure to a team of experts including Michael Mansfield QC, if he could be persuaded to take up the case.

[lookout]

It'll get worse as more info emerges.

[sami]

It'll get worse as more info emerges.

yes but will it be enough to free jb

[David1819]

Hi notsure,so far as  can gather, when relevant documents were obtained it was a case of them being put into consecutive order to make them legible and once it was realised that things didn't add up as regards who found what silencer,it was beginning to sink in as JB continued to read the twisted evidence of the silencer of which all who were involved in the testing,etc were either directly corrupting the evidence or assisting EP in concealing that it had been Stan Jones who'd found it in the gun cupboard on the morning of the 7th of August. ( SBJ/1 ) If that wasn't bad enough,over a month later the DB/1 cropped up which proved to be the catalyst that implicated JB,as it had red paint on it from where the fireplace had been scratched because the marks weren't there on the night of the murders.

JB hasn't got all the documents as yet,but he went on to admit that he " wasn't a very bright spark " prior to him having read the said documents,but as soon as he lay his hands on them he could see exactly what had been done,then piecing them together became an easy process.

This is recent progress and he's limited to anything else he could say. He did say the fan would get a hit,but politely said " poo " and not what I quoted.
JB naturally wants complaints to be made to the Home Office,COLP ( who knew all along of the false evidence regarding the silencer ) plus the IPCC,as JB went on to say that it's a " rats nest of corruption ".

Jeremy worked this out in 2010, its not exactly anything new

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7884046/Jeremy-Bamber-claims-he-was-framed-for-murder-by-cousins.html

[sami]

Hi notsure,so far as  can gather, when relevant documents were obtained it was a case of them being put into consecutive order to make them legible and once it was realised that things didn't add up as regards who found what silencer,it was beginning to sink in as JB continued to read the twisted evidence of the silencer of which all who were involved in the testing,etc were either directly corrupting the evidence or assisting EP in concealing that it had been Stan Jones who'd found it in the gun cupboard on the morning of the 7th of August. ( SBJ/1 ) If that wasn't bad enough,over a month later the DB/1 cropped up which proved to be the catalyst that implicated JB,as it had red paint on it from where the fireplace had been scratched because the marks weren't there on the night of the murders.

JB hasn't got all the documents as yet,but he went on to admit that he " wasn't a very bright spark " prior to him having read the said documents,but as soon as he lay his hands on them he could see exactly what had been done,then piecing them together became an easy process.

This is recent progress and he's limited to anything else he could say. He did say the fan would get a hit,but politely said " poo " and not what I quoted.
JB naturally wants complaints to be made to the Home Office,COLP ( who knew all along of the false evidence regarding the silencer ) plus the IPCC,as JB went on to say that it's a " rats nest of corruption ".

yes jb is quite fond of rats .remember bw interview 

[Steve_uk]

Jeremy worked this out in 2010, its not exactly anything new

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7884046/Jeremy-Bamber-claims-he-was-framed-for-murder-by-cousins.html

You make it sound as if everything Jeremy says is Gospel truth..

[lookout]

Jeremy worked this out in 2010, its not exactly anything new

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7884046/Jeremy-Bamber-claims-he-was-framed-for-murder-by-cousins.html

It's new to the public though.

[sami]

You make it sound as if everything Jeremy says is Gospel truth..

i agree steve

[David1819]

You make it sound as if everything Jeremy says is Gospel truth..

Read the article and check the date its written

[Caroline]

It's new to the public though.

It's not new, he's been saying this since I wrote to him and no doubt before that.

[Steve_uk]

Read the article and check the date its written

Do elucidate as to the significance of the date..

[mike tesko]

I disagree with the suggestion that even without the silencer evidence, and everything which was pinned to it, insofar as the prosecutions case was concerned, does not prove Bambers innocence. I think the opposite argument is true, since it is much too late for anybody to be able to ignore all the dishonesty associated with the silencer evidence on the part of the relatives, Essex Police, and Experts. If this dishonesty had been noted during the trial, and the jury might well have gone on to convict him, but that proposition did not happen. What this means is that the silencer, blood and paint evidence, has to stand up to scrutiny, otherwise, the convictions have to be quashed, as unsafe. If that occurs, it is equivalent to him having been found 'not' guilty' by the original jury, or to put it another way, that he is innocent...

[mike tesko]

I disagree with the suggestion that even without the silencer evidence, and everything which was pinned to it, insofar as the prosecutions case was concerned, does not prove Bambers innocence. I think the opposite argument is true, since it is much too late for anybody to be able to ignore all the dishonesty associated with the silencer evidence on the part of the relatives, Essex Police, and Experts. If this dishonesty had been noted during the trial, and the jury might well have gone on to convict him, but that proposition did not happen. What this means is that the silencer, blood and paint evidence, has to stand up to scrutiny, otherwise, the convictions have to be quashed, as unsafe. If that occurs, it is equivalent to him having been found 'not' guilty' by the original jury, or to put it another way, that he is innocent...

A lot hangs on the admissibility or otherwise of the silencer argument with everything that was pinned upon it...