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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3315 on: July 20, 2016, 10:17:PM »
How utterly bizarre, therefore, that once armed cops trespassed beyond the threshold of the back door which had been battered from its two hinges by five heavy and consecutive sledge hammer blows, that at no stage or any point did any member of the six / eight man raid team mention seeing, or finding any rifle leaning near any upstairs window? The only rifle found upstairs in any of the first floor rooms, so we are led to believe, was the .22 anshuzt rifle which after 10 am, PC 'David' Bird, had photographed upon Sheila's body once cops had moved Sheila and the rifle, from the bed. So, let's be clear about what I am reporting here, the journey of 'that' rifle which ended up at just after 10 am, being plonked on Sheila's body, presumably by PC Bird himself, since upon first entering the farmhouse, 'Ron' Cook had told him, 'to make sure that he got photographs showing the correct position of the gun on Sheila's body's...

Five heavy consecutive sledge hammer blows on the back farmhouse door served to detach it from its two hinges...

One blow each, for the five deaths inside the farmhouse, two hinges detached akin to the two suspects responsible for all the deaths, Sheila, or Jeremy...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3316 on: July 20, 2016, 10:25:PM »
The journey of the anshuzt rifle, lies at the heart of what really did happen to Sheila Caffell, a journey which had begun on the previous evening with Jeremy loading bullets into its magazine, intent on using it to shoot rabbits he had seen whilst driving the tractor and trailer into one of the barns...

'Run rabbit, run rabbit, run run run, the farmers son, has gone to get the gun, gun, gun...

Too late, rabbits had bolted by the time Jeremy returned with the loaded rifle...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3317 on: July 20, 2016, 10:38:PM »
The journey of the anshuzt rifle, lies at the heart of what really did happen to Sheila Caffell, a journey which had begun on the previous evening with Jeremy loading bullets into its magazine, intent on using it to shoot rabbits he had seen whilst driving the tractor and trailer into one of the barns...

'Run rabbit, run rabbit, run run run, the farmers son, has gone to get the gun, gun, gun...

Too late, rabbits had bolted by the time Jeremy returned with the loaded rifle...
Jeremy returned the rifle back to the farmhouse without firing a shot off. He placed the rifle on a wooden settle situated in the back hallway near the den. Somebody referred the place where he had left the loaded rifle as being on the kitchen table. When I questioned J regarding this discrepancy he reaffirmed that he had left the loaded rifle on the aforementioned wooden settle. When asked what he did regarding the bullets he had loaded into the magazine of the rifle J told me he detached it, and that he also removed the round in the breach - I did not believe him when he told me this...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3318 on: July 21, 2016, 08:14:AM »
One part of Jeremy's account which is a bit of a grey area, involves him leaving the farmhouse to go home to his cottage in Head Street, Goldhanger, on Tuesday evening, after returning the loaded rifle to the aforementioned settle. For example, he only refers to seeing both his parents and Sheila sat around the kitchen table discussing Sheila's inability to look after her two boys, and the suggestion that she needed help with bringing them up, on one occasion and that was when he loaded up the rifle with bullets intent on doing a spot of vermin control. He had returned to the farmhouse on the tractor and trailer which he had left in one of the barns. He supposedly seen some rabbits hopping about. He had gone into the farmhouse gathered the rifle and box of bullets, gone into the main kitchen, tipped the box of ammunition out on the kitchen worktop, and proceeded to load fresh rounds into the guns ammunition magazine. Somewhere amongst all of this, in-between his parents discussing with Sheila the help she needed, Jeremy had presumably informed his father that there was one last trailer load of crop to be collected from the field. All we know with a degree of certainty is that Jeremy left the farmhouse to go home to his cottage in Head Street, Goldhanger, at about 9.30pm, albeit, no-one actually claims to have physically seen him leaving. However, an occupant of one of the farm cottages did report that she heard Jeremy's Vauxhall Astra GTE speeding off down pages lane at about half past nine that evening...

We know that when Barbara Wilson spoke to Ralph Bamber on the phone at just before 10pm that evening that Ralph appeared rather abrupt in his tone of voice, which she put down to the possibility that something had upset him, or that her call had interrupted an argument of sorts...

A local resident, named Smith, reported to the cops that he heard a single shotgun blast come from the vicinity of whf on that very same evening, between 9.30 and 10.15pm...

When cops searched the farmhouse after the shootings they noted a 12 bore shotgun in the gun cupboard with an empty cartridge case...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3319 on: July 21, 2016, 09:50:AM »
Although Jeremy says he removed the round from the breach of the rifle, it is a bit of a grey area as to what he did with the round he had removed...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3320 on: July 21, 2016, 10:50:AM »
Although Jeremy says he removed the round from the breach of the rifle, it is a bit of a grey area as to what he did with the round he had removed...

One version of events making the rounds, is that he placed the round he removed, back into the ammunition magazine. Another version has J placing the said round on the kitchen worktop with the other live bullets...

But, there was only one occasion when Jeremy went into the kitchen that evening, and that was to load bullets into the ammunition magazine of the rifle...

How then could he have returned the round he removed from the breach of the rifle to place it with the other live ammunition on the kitchen worktop, if he only entered the kitchen, once...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3321 on: July 21, 2016, 05:40:PM »
The contents of the various police logs which were being contemporaneously recorded as and when events unfolded were deliberately kept from the jury which tried the case. This ploy of non disclosure, and a policy of all concerned or involved to keep their mouths silent regarding the changing body count downstairs and upstairs, from it originally have been two down, three up, how it became altered to a ratio of one down, four up - 'loose lips, sink Ships...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3322 on: July 21, 2016, 05:48:PM »
The contents of the various police logs which were being contemporaneously recorded as and when events unfolded were deliberately kept from the jury which tried the case. This ploy of non disclosure, and a policy of all concerned or involved to keep their mouths silent regarding the changing body count downstairs and upstairs, from it originally have been two down, three up, how it became altered to a ratio of one down, four up - 'loose lips, sink Ships...

Then, of course, the journey of the anshuzt rifle fell to be considered, but the prosecution did not disclose the witness statement of APC Julia Jeapes, who reported that she could see what appeared to be the barrel of a rifle leaning against an upper floor window (x) before the raid team entered the premises. Once inside there were conflicting accounts regarding the whereabouts of the said rifle, for example, it was on the bed between the bodies of Sheila and June. It ended up on top of Sheila's body where PC Bird (SOCO) photographed it after 10am that morning...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3323 on: July 22, 2016, 01:57:AM »
A Report...

This is just someone's opinion, this person lives up the road from me, what would he know?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3324 on: July 22, 2016, 02:00:AM »
....By whom?

He lives 5 mins from me Jane, I shall do some digging.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3325 on: July 22, 2016, 02:05:AM »
He lives 5 mins from me Jane, I shall do some digging.

I don't think Mike should have uploaded the label for privacy reasons. But anyway what a small world  :))

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3326 on: July 22, 2016, 11:45:AM »
I don't think Mike should have uploaded the label for privacy reasons. But anyway what a small world  :))

Neither do I. I haven't read it all yet but it's not a report, just this persons view of the case.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3327 on: July 22, 2016, 01:52:PM »
He lives 5 mins from me Jane, I shall do some digging.


Definitely, Caroline.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3328 on: July 22, 2016, 05:52:PM »
In AE's 72 page COLP statement she mentions asking DS Jones some questions which he didn't answer such as why he wanted to know which brand of cigarettes Neville smoked. No such reticence when it came to DS Ainsley who told AE that the prosecution might suggest she was the one who put Sheila's blood from the knickers inside the silencer. [page 54] AE makes no indication that this is new information to her.
AE would not have known there being any blood inside the silencer as this was before the trial. AE claims that menstrual blood smells different [although, after soaking for some days I'm not sure it would smell at all]. Ainsley then goes on to suggest what she should say when giving evidence. She mentions a statement [14/5/86] that isn't in the archive when dating the conversation.
Sharing such information seems highly unethical to me.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #3329 on: July 22, 2016, 06:35:PM »
Hi lebaleb------in Jeremy's words " the shit's going to hit the fan and the use of Febreeze won't touch the stink that'll emanate from the corruption involving the relatives,Essex police,forensics,Colp,CPS,DPP,judges and the Home Office,who ALL knew what had gone on involving the sound moderators.
Two were switched,as there's rock solid proof that DB/1 had been switched with SBJ/1  between the 20th and 25th of September. DB/1 was used to scratch/score the mantle shelf in order to implicate Jeremy.

The blood that you mentioned,I'll leave to you to figure how it got into the silencer. The point being that everyone had worked together to corrupt evidence and actively assist in concealing the fact that EP found SBJ/1.

BTW,it was also KNOWN that AP's silencer WAS at WHF in the same gun cupboard as Neville Bamber's.

Documentation from primary PII documents as well as hundreds of crooked secondary PII documents.
These are with the legal team who are working for Jeremy.

It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to work out what happened when the proof is right under your nose and straight from the horse's mouth.