What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

Lets start with the ballistic experts claim, that 'he had no idea' when the anshuzt rifle had 'last been fired', prior to the date (20th September, 1985) he allegedly performed the 'official test fire' of the same with 'control ammunition'?

'That' is a rather huge statement for 'Malcolm Fletcher' to have made...

He is on record as saying that, 'he didn't know when the anshhuzt rifle had last been fired', prior to 'the 20th September, 1985'...

[mike tesko]

'Fletcher', lied...

[mike tesko]

'Fletcher', lied...

Information contained upon some of the 'GENERAL EXAMINATION RECORDS' (aforementioned), clearly proves that 'Fletcher', is a compulsive 'liar'...

How could 'he' confirm a match of certain cartridge cases, had been 'identified', as having been 'loaded' into the 'magazine of the anshuzt rifle', 'fired', 'extracted' and 'ejected' from 'it', on dates prior to the 20th September, 1985. For example, 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September, 1985, without him 'knowing' that there must have been an earlier 'test fire' of the rifle with 'control ammunition', on an occasion prior to the 20th September, 1985?

[mike tesko]

'Fletcher', lied...

But, 'Why'?

[mike tesko]

Fletcher, 'lied', because he knew that the cartridge casings in these 'unofficial' test firings of control ammunition, were being used in a substitution process, where the said test fired cartridge casings (14 in total) were being used in a substitution process, designed to make it appear as though it was a 'one gun crime', when it wasn't...

[mike tesko]

What I would like to do at this stage, is to present the evidence contained in these 'GENERAL EXAMINATION RECORDS'. That is, those cartridge cases with 'white residue' upon them, and the 'remaining ones' which 'had no white residue' upon them...

The point I am trying to draw attention to, is that those spent cartridges with 'white residue' upon them, were cartridges upon which 'no fingerprints' belonging to 'Sheila' had been found. However, those with 'no reference' at all to a presence at all of 'white residue' upon them, must be, and are cartridge cases introduced by the cops / Fletcher, with the sole intention of turning the investigation into a 'one gun crime'...

[mike tesko]

What I would like to do at this stage, is to present the evidence contained in these 'GENERAL EXAMINATION RECORDS'. That is, those cartridge cases with 'white residue' upon them, and the 'remaining ones' which 'had no white residue' upon them...

The point I am trying to draw attention to, is that those spent cartridges with 'white residue' upon them, were cartridges upon which 'no fingerprints' belonging to 'Sheila' had been found. However, those with 'no reference' at all to a presence at all of 'white residue' upon them, must be, and are cartridge cases introduced by the cops / Fletcher, with the sole intention of turning the investigation into a 'one gun crime'...

Bearing in mind, that 'Fletcher' has 'lied',  and that not all the cartridge cases had got the 'white residue', upon them, this is despite all 25 cartridge cases supposedly being exposed to 'superglue treatment' on the 23rd August, 1985...

How could such 'a scenario' be true?

[mike tesko]

'Fletcher', has lied...

He 'knows' full well, that there 'had been' an earlier test fire of the anshuzt rifle prior to the 20th September, 1985...

[Caroline]

First off we have the form of identified positive results for fingerprints from Essex police

Then we have Michael turner QC appeal notes 2002
Robert Boutflour claimed Jeremy had been trying to get Sheila to load the rifle in front of June and Pamela, but Pamela made no such reference of the incident in her statements. Jeremy denied ever doing this. It is now known  fingerprints were found on the bullet cases of the cartridges, but this was not disclosed. Whose fingerprints were these? One can only postulate that the police told Robert Boutflour the fingerprints were Sheila’s, and in an attempt to explain it, he made a statement of how Sheila’s fingerprints came to be on the bullet cases.

Then we have police notes about discussions of having the casings tested for prints.

Positive results for finger prints does NOT mean they were identified. You can have a positive result for blood but not be able to type it - which also happened in this case.

Robert Boutflour was writing one of his mad scenario's, in the SAME passage as you're quoting he had Jeremy knocking on the door and attacking Nevill from that point.  You would also have to wonder why, if they were able to identify prints, Jeremy's weren't recovered given that he admits to loading the magazine.

[mike tesko]

Jeremy's part fingerprints were found upon 11 of the original 25 cartridge cases...

[Caroline]

Jeremy's part fingerprints were found upon 11 of the original 25 cartridge cases...

Do you have any documentation on that? Or even better, any documentation to indicate they found Sheila's?

[David1819]

Do you have any documentation on that? Or even better, any documentation to indicate they found Sheila's?

When you combine the evidence we have together its rather obvious they did.

Lets revise things

1. Police notes have Ron Cook talking about supergluing the casings

2. Police documents show positive results found on casings

3. RB comes up with theories as to how Sheila's prints get on the casings

4. Then at a much later date, RB sais that Pamela and June had told him that Jeremy had Sheila load the rifle infront of them. Pamela never gave testimony to this and why does he not mention it in the diary he had written before he decided to reveal this?  He seems to be going to great length at fabricating an explanantion as to how sheilas prints got on the shell casings

5. Malcom Flecthers lab reports only has sixteen shell cases with fingerprint glue residue on them! The other nine have no finger print glue residue. How can this be when they tested all 25 shell casings?

6. The police then deny any prints were found and we now know otherwise. Whatever the results were they surely did not benefit the prosecution. Denying that prints were found and withholding evidence that suggests otherwise is further proof of a conspiracy.

[Caroline]

When you combine the evidence we have together its rather obvious they did.

Lets revise things

1. Police notes have Ron Cook talking about supergluing the casings

2. Police documents show positive results found on casings

3. RB comes up with theories as to how Sheila's prints get on the casings

4. Then at a much later date, RB sais that Pamela and June had told him that Jeremy had Sheila load the rifle infront of them. Pamela never gave testimony to this and why does he not mention it in the diary he had written before he decided to reveal this?  He seems to be going to great length at fabricating an explanantion as to how sheilas prints got on the shell casings

5. Malcom Flecthers lab reports only has sixteen shell cases with fingerprint glue residue on them! The other nine have no finger print glue residue. How can this be when they tested all 25 shell casings?

6. The police then deny any prints were found and we now know otherwise. Whatever the results were they surely did not benefit the prosecution. Denying that prints were found and withholding evidence that suggests otherwise is further proof of a conspiracy.

So no documentation then? Just another one of your putting two and two together and coming up with conspiracy. 

[Caroline]

When you combine the evidence we have together its rather obvious they did.

Lets revise things

1. Police notes have Ron Cook talking about supergluing the casings

2. Police documents show positive results found on casings

3. RB comes up with theories as to how Sheila's prints get on the casings

4. Then at a much later date, RB sais that Pamela and June had told him that Jeremy had Sheila load the rifle infront of them. Pamela never gave testimony to this and why does he not mention it in the diary he had written before he decided to reveal this?  He seems to be going to great length at fabricating an explanantion as to how sheilas prints got on the shell casings

5. Malcom Flecthers lab reports only has sixteen shell cases with fingerprint glue residue on them! The other nine have no finger print glue residue. How can this be when they tested all 25 shell casings?

6. The police then deny any prints were found and we now know otherwise. Whatever the results were they surely did not benefit the prosecution. Denying that prints were found and withholding evidence that suggests otherwise is further proof of a conspiracy.

Except that is not what he said, he said June said Sheila didn't have anything to do with loading the rifle, just that Jeremy TRIED to get her to load it.

[Jane]

Except that is not what he said, he said June said Sheila didn't have anything to do with loading the rifle, just that Jeremy TRIED to get her to load it.

Which puts a VERY different complexion on the whole thing, doesn't it?