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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2790 on: June 23, 2016, 10:14:AM »
The silencer which cops still had in their possession until 20th September, 1985, could 'not' possibly have been the self same silencer which they had already submitted to the lab' at Huntingdon, on the '30th August, 1985' (DB/1 - item, 23)...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2791 on: June 23, 2016, 10:20:AM »
The silencer which cops still had in their possession until 20th September, 1985, could 'not' possibly have been the self same silencer which they had already submitted to the lab' at Huntingdon, on the '30th August, 1985' (DB/1 - item, 23)...

That being so, logic dictates that silencers 'DB/1' (23), and 'DRB/1' (22) cannot be the same silencers. This is because by 11th September to the 20th September, 1985, one of these two silencers (DB/1 - 23) was already at the lab', it having been sent there by cops on the 30th August 1985, whilst the other silencer (DRB/1 - 22), had always been in police possession from the 11th September, 1985, until the 20th September, 1985, at which stage cops then sent the second silencer to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres, an exercise which had 'already' been performed on the first silencer, in any event...

This establishes the 'existence' of 'two separate identical looking silencers', at the 'heart of this investigation'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2792 on: June 23, 2016, 10:22:AM »
Let us examine the document in more detail for 'other' clues:-

Originating from 'OM'

Document Number '181'
Index Number '823'
'DS DAVIDSON' (SOCO) 13/9/85 1800hrs  'DS EASTWOOD'

Above 'items forwarded' to Lab' 20/9/85
'SC/786/85' Refers
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2793 on: June 23, 2016, 10:31:AM »
The Operations Manager (OM) for this investigation, was none other than one PI 'Bob' Miller...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2794 on: June 23, 2016, 10:35:AM »
The Operations Manager (OM) for this investigation was none other than one PI 'Bob' Miller...

So, now we have three named cops to put against the knowledge that a second silencer (subject of the 'info' contained in this legally binding with evidential value) document, namely, PI 'Bob' Miller, DS Davidson and DS Eastwood, who all knew about the existence of this '2nd' silencer. They all knew about it at the very least between the 13th to the 20th September, 1985...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2795 on: June 23, 2016, 10:41:AM »
So, now we have three named cops to put against the knowledge that a second silencer (subject of the 'info' contained in this legally binding with evidential value) document, namely, PI 'Bob' Miller, DS Davidson and DS Eastwood, who all knew about the existence of this '2nd' silencer. They all knew about it at the very least between the 13th to the 20th September, 1985...

This '2nd' silencer had to have originated from somewhere, somebody had to have found it, retained it, handed it over to cops. It had to be put into police storage, and documented as such. DI 'Ron' Cook had kept the other silencer (DB/1 - 23) in his coat pocket for 17 days before he sent that one off to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, so we know that Cook supposedly had nothing more to do with 'that' silencer. So where was this '2nd' silencer kept? Surely nobody is going to try to claim that 'Ron' Cook kept the '2nd' silencer in his other coat pocket? What ever next? I can picture it now, the headline, 'A TRICK OF TWO POCKETS'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2796 on: June 23, 2016, 10:45:AM »
And then, we have the document number, 181, which like the index number, 823, can be checked against the 'other' consecutively numbered documents (179, 180 / 182, 183), and indexed (821, 822 / 824, 825), so that its place in order of date and time can be pinpointed accurately, thereby, confirming that on this particular date and time, that cops still had possession of the '2nd' silencer, at a time when the '1st' silencer was already at the lab'...

'Two' silencers then, 'not' only one...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2797 on: June 23, 2016, 10:51:AM »
And then, we have the document number, 181, which like the index number, 823, can be checked against the 'other' consecutively numbered documents (179, 180 / 182, 183), and indexed (821, 822 / 824, 825), so that its place in order of date and time can be pinpointed accurately, thereby, confirming that on this particular date and time, that cops still had possession of the '2nd' silencer, at a time when the '1st' silencer was already at the lab'...

'Two' silencers then, 'not' only one...

It was necessary for the prosecution to produce information to the defence in readiness for the trial, on exactly how this '2nd' silencer had come into police possession, and what had happened to it whilst in police possession, and rather more importantly, what had happened to it once cops had sent 'it' to the lab' on the 20th September, 1985?

Since, if there were 'two silencers', handed over, examined, and both merged into one silencer, then what of it?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2798 on: June 23, 2016, 10:58:AM »
Somebody has deliberately set out to deceive the court which tried this case, into believing that there was only ever just the one silencer, when all along there had been two different ones. The dated and timed events relating to each of these two silencers were merged together, as though there had only ever been just the one. This 'trick' is what contributed to Bamber being convicted. It does not stand up to scrutiny for anybody to argue that 'oh well, it doesn't matter anyway, because there is other evidence which makes him guilty'...

The fact that it can now be established that the prosecutions case relied upon a 'TRICK OF SILENCERS', can only lead to one inevitable conclusion. Convictions must be quashed, otherwise the Criminal Justice System itself is brought into disrepute...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2799 on: June 23, 2016, 11:02:AM »
David Boutflour needs to be made to say what he did with 'that' flake (the Boutflour flake), he needs to identify the cops who knew about it, and do it quickly, otherwise now that the cat is out of the bag, he will commit the criminal offence, of 'perverting the course of justice'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2800 on: June 23, 2016, 12:30:PM »
So, now we have three named cops to put against the knowledge that a second silencer (subject of the 'info' contained in this legally binding with evidential value) document, namely, PI 'Bob' Miller, DS Davidson and DS Eastwood, who all knew about the existence of this '2nd' silencer. They all knew about it at the very least between the 13th to the 20th September, 1985...
is bob miller not dead,i dont know about the other two

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2801 on: June 23, 2016, 12:51:PM »
is bob miller not dead,i dont know about the other two

Yes, I think he died last year.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2803 on: June 23, 2016, 01:00:PM »
Yes, I think he died last year.
what a great man,

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #2804 on: June 23, 2016, 01:57:PM »
what a great man,

Hardly the kind of man who would be party to a massive conspiracy?
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