What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

There were no rabbits, there was no rifle left on the settle and no bullets spilled out onto the blue and white chequered worktop. Jeremy, according to Julie, was the instigator of a story round the kitchen table that the next time she fell ill she would be incarcerated in an NHS hospital and not private care. Sheila wrote her last diary entry entitled "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy" but apart from that we know nothing save there was no emergency around 10pm when Pamela Boutflour rang and Jeremy had ostensibly left.

You obviously have not read the COLP versions of all the relatives evidence, maybe you should take time to read the now known facts. Yes, there was an air of worry in the tone of June Bambers voice when she spoke to her sister late that last evening. Ralph was also abrupt on the telephone around the same time - Jeremy had left the farmhouse by that stage, Sheila had sank back into the far corners of her own mind, was untalkative, brooding, and evasive. Sheila's handbag was also on the kitchen worktop, near the telephone, and the bullets. Why would Jeremy tip 30 bullets out onto the kitchen worktop after he supposedly shot and killed everyone?

Some of the bullets were partially covered by an overlaying packet...

[sami]

You obviously have not read the COLP versions of all the relatives evidence, maybe you should take time to read the now known facts. Yes, there was an air of worry in the tone of June Bambers voice when she spoke to her sister late that last evening. Ralph was also abrupt on the telephone around the same time - Jeremy had left the farmhouse by that stage, Sheila had sank back into the far corners of her own mind, was untalkative, brooding, and evasive. Sheila's handbag was also on the kitchen worktop, near the telephone, and the bullets. Why would Jeremy tip 30 bullets out onto the kitchen worktop after he supposedly shot and killed everyone?

Some of the bullets were partially covered by an overlaying packet...

maybe you can explain where she got the extra bullets from

[Caroline]

June Bamber did not have any lead deposits found on her hands, neither did Ralph Bamber, so are you trying to suggest that June, or Ralph both wore gloves when they handled the bullets, in your scenario?

Of course she didn't because they were never there in the first place - least not at that point.

[Caroline]

Hang on a minute, why would he do that?

Because of his scenario that he had seen the rabbits etc.

[sami]

Of course she didn't because they were never there in the first place - least not at that point.

exactly caroline

[Caroline]

there was

On the trigger?

[sami]

there was

your saying there was blooded prints on the rifle

[mike tesko]

what do you think why

By your scenario, Jeremy would have to be so devious and clever to 'plant' the bullets on the kitchen worktop, with exactly 30 remaining bullets, set against the fact that there are 50 bullets in a newly opened box, and 25 rounds fired during the incident, with five of the corresponding bullet cases bearing double magazine marks indicating that at least 5 of the 25 shots fired came from a different source, and yet the same Jeremy supposedly hid the silencer away in a cupboard in the den containing all the damned blood and paint evidence that was visible to the naked eye. The two scenarios do not sit well together, it couldn't have happened like your suggesting, unless of course that Jeremy had been Sheila's accomplice...

But he wasn't, because 'Ralph Neville' was...

[Caroline]

By your scenario, Jeremy would have to be so devious and clever to 'plant' the bullets on the kitchen worktop, with exactly 30 remaining bullets, set against the fact that there are 50 bullets in a newly opened box, and 25 rounds fired during the incident, with five of the corresponding bullet cases bearing double magazine marks indicating that at least 5 of the 25 shots fired came from a different source, and yet the same Jeremy supposedly hid the silencer away in a cupboard in the den containing all the damned blood and paint evidence that was visible to the naked eye. The two scenarios do not sit well together, it couldn't have happened like your suggesting, unless of course that Jeremy had been Sheila's accomplice...

But he wasn't, because 'Ralph Neville' was...

He wasn't clever at all - that's why he got caught.

[sami]

You obviously have not read the COLP versions of all the relatives evidence, maybe you should take time to read the now known facts. Yes, there was an air of worry in the tone of June Bambers voice when she spoke to her sister late that last evening. Ralph was also abrupt on the telephone around the same time - Jeremy had left the farmhouse by that stage, Sheila had sank back into the far corners of her own mind, was untalkative, brooding, and evasive. Sheila's handbag was also on the kitchen worktop, near the telephone, and the bullets. Why would Jeremy tip 30 bullets out onto the kitchen worktop after he supposedly shot and killed everyone?

Some of the bullets were partially covered by an overlaying packet...

post the statement of pamela saying there was a air of worry in junes tone,any arguement that night involved jb not sheila

[mike tesko]

He wasn't clever at all - that's why he got caught.

I disagree, he didn't get caught as you put it, the relatives, bent cops, and dodgy experts framed him with the silencer, blood and paint evidence. Today, there exists no scientific evidence which proves his culpability in these murders...

[mike tesko]

post the statement of pamela saying there was a air of worry in junes tone,any arguement that night involved jb not sheila

No, I won't because I don't like your tone...

[David1819]

You obviously have not read the COLP versions of all the relatives evidence, maybe you should take time to read the now known facts. Yes, there was an air of worry in the tone of June Bambers voice when she spoke to her sister late that last evening. Ralph was also abrupt on the telephone around the same time - Jeremy had left the farmhouse by that stage, Sheila had sank back into the far corners of her own mind, was untalkative, brooding, and evasive. Sheila's handbag was also on the kitchen worktop, near the telephone, and the bullets. Why would Jeremy tip 30 bullets out onto the kitchen worktop after he supposedly shot and killed everyone?

Some of the bullets were partially covered by an overlaying packet...

Does anyone know what that packet is? my first guess was a packet of crisps but I think it may be too small

[mike tesko]

I am not uploading any more material until I am ready too...

[mike tesko]

Does anyone know what that packet is? my first guess was a packet of crisps but I think it may be too small

Does it have 'WILKINSONS' on it?