What makes Bamber innocent?

[Jane]

This is not a joke, it is a very serious matter. DCS 'Mick' Ainsley knew the truth, which is why Ann Eaton made mention in her COLP witness statement, that when she was testifying at the forthcoming trial, that if she was asked about the blood in Sheila' s heavily blood stained knickers being the source from where the relatives had contaminated the silencer (DRB/1) with Sheila's blood, that she was advised by Ainsley to respond by saying that you could tell the difference between normal blood and menstrual blood by the smell of it...

Don't try to embarrass me, with your tactics, I didn't tamper with the silencer by introducing Sheila's blood to it...

I am not an expert on this, perhaps you ought to question Annie Eaton, or former DCS 'Mick' Ainsley about it, but I don't think there is much if any difference in smell between a small dried flake of someone's menstual blood, and a small dried flake of that persons normal blood...

Let common sense prevail...

Why was DCS Ainsley giving such advice to Annie Eaton about the blood? Did he know something which he wasn't telling the rest of us?

Sure, he did...

Are you really asking us to believe that it took a MAN to point out the difference, to a WOMAN!!!! between menstrual and other blood!!!!!!!!! I fail to see why you think I'd try to embarrass you OR why you feel the need to point out that you had no dealings with the silencer. However, I'm very interested to know from where you believe the menstrual blood was obtained, as I can tell you now that it wouldn't have been obtained from a pair of knickers soaking in water.

As you say. Let common sense prevail.

[mike tesko]

What we then find, is that in 1986, Glynis Howard, and John Hayward, amongst others, carry out an examination upon the internal baffle plates of the second silencer...

I believe this examination was conducted on the 29th April 1986...

[sami]

Hang on a minute, give me chance to put the full argument...

sorry please continue

[mike tesko]

Are you really asking us to believe that it took a MAN to point out the difference, to a WOMAN!!!! between menstrual and other blood!!!!!!!!! I fail to see why you think I'd try to embarrass you OR why you feel the need to point out that you had no dealings with the silencer. However, I'm very interested to know from where you believe the menstrual blood was obtained, as I can tell you now that it wouldn't have been obtained from a pair of knickers soaking in water.

Well, before you start accusing me of anything, you ought to read what 'Annie' said about 'it' in her COLP witness statement. She didn't just pluck that comment out of thin air. There was obviously some comment between 'Annie' and Mick Ainsley in 1986, about blood clots in Sheila's knickers. Why else would Ainsley single 'Annie' out to say what he had advised her to say...

[Jane]

Well, before you start accusing me of anything, you ought to read what 'Annie' said about 'it' in her COLP witness statement. She didn't just pluck that comment out of thin air. There was obviously some comment between 'Annie' and Mick Ainsley in 1986, about blood clots in Sheila's knickers. Why else would Ainsley single 'Annie' out to say what he had advised her to say...

Perhaps you can tell me exactly where there was ever any suggestion of such and what makes you think "there was obviously some comment". I wasn't aware of having started to accuse you of anything.

[sami]

Well, before you start accusing me of anything, you ought to read what 'Annie' said about 'it' in her COLP witness statement. She didn't just pluck that comment out of thin air. There was obviously some comment between 'Annie' and Mick Ainsley in 1986, about blood clots in Sheila's knickers. Why else would Ainsley single 'Annie' out to say what he had advised her to say...

can you show proof of that comment being made ,is it written down somewhere,or are we just assuming it took place

[mike tesko]

Well, before you start accusing me of anything, you ought to read what 'Annie' said about 'it' in her COLP witness statement. She didn't just pluck that comment out of thin air. There was obviously some comment between 'Annie' and Mick Ainsley in 1986, about blood clots in Sheila's knickers. Why else would Ainsley single 'Annie' out to say what he had advised her to say...

The 'truth' is there, in 'Annies' COLP witness statement,  she made her statement to them, I did not her statement on her behalf, I am not a South Yorkshire police officer, who are experts at this type of dishonesty...

[mike tesko]

can you show proof of that comment being made ,is it written down somewhere,or are we just assuming it took place

I can post the extracts of her COLP statement, she certainly made it clear that Mick Ainsley told her what to say if it was put to her during the trial that the relatives had contaminated the silencer themselves whilst the silencer was in their possession between 10th and 12th August 1985...

[mike tesko]

I can post the extracts of her COLP statement, she certainly made it clear that Mick Ainsley told her what to say if it was put to her during the trial that the relatives had contaminated the silencer themselves whilst the silencer was in their possession between 10th and 12th August 1985...

But...

Have you got 'any idea'how many pages her COLP witness statement consists of?

[sami]

I can post the extracts of her COLP statement, she certainly made it clear that Mick Ainsley told her what to say if it was put to her during the trial that the relatives had contaminated the silencer themselves whilst the silencer was in their possession between 10th and 12th August 1985...

please do mike ,it will be interesting to read

[mike tesko]

please do mike ,it will be interesting to read

Hang on, then, I will have to now source 'that' witness statement somewhere in storage. I know its not posted in the archives, because I've just checked. It will take quite some time mind you...

[sami]

Hang on, then, I will have to now source 'that' witness statement somewhere in storage. I know its not posted in the archives, because I've just checked. It will take quite some time mind you...

thats ok mike,it will settle it once n for all

[mike tesko]

Right, I have got some bad news, and some good news...

[sami]

Right, I have got some bad news, and some good news...

bad news first please ,mike

[mike tesko]

bad news first please ,mike

Have you ever tried searching through 50,000 documents looking for the 72 hand written version of a witness statement? I could allocate only two hours to this task. The bad news is that I have not located the 72 page hand written version. I know it exists and that I have had sight of it during the past 12 months, and that I have noted salient points contained within it...