What makes Bamber innocent?

[notsure]

as i have said before i dont believe the silencer was used :)i think the family may have sured up the evidence ,which is fair enough,they were just making sure jb didnt get away with it

hi sami, if you truly believe the family did that then he should be freed ! You cannot have any tom dick or harry putting thier oar in and making things up just because they ghink someone is guilty.

[sami]

hi sami, if you truly believe the family did that then he should be freed ! You cannot have any tom dick or harry putting thier oar in and making things up just because they ghink someone is guilty.

hi notsure.because of the way it was found i feel it could be not right,but theres still some things that convince me jb is guilty.but like you said in the other post ,people will look at the evidence differently

[Jane]

hi sami, if you truly believe the family did that then he should be freed ! You cannot have any tom dick or harry putting thier oar in and making things up just because they ghink someone is guilty.

Notsure, you appear to be saying that it doesn't matter if Jeremy is guilty of 5 murders. He should be freed because of the method used to convict him?

[lookout]

Notsure didn't " appear " to say that at all.

[Jane]

Notsure didn't " appear " to say that at all.

I couldn't quite believe she was, which is why I questioned her.

[notsure]

Notsure, you appear to be saying that it doesn't matter if Jeremy is guilty of 5 murders. He should be freed because of the method used to convict him?

no im not saying that at all jane. Of course it matters if hes guilty!

However we cant havevpeople making things up or embellishing things to get someone convicted just because they believe in his guilt. Surely you agree witb that.

[sami]

no im not saying that at all jane. Of course it matters if hes guilty!

However we cant havevpeople making things up or embellishing things to get someone convicted just because they believe in his guilt. Surely you agree witb that.

iam notsure on that one notsure

[Jane]

no im not saying that at all jane. Of course it matters if hes guilty!

However we cant havevpeople making things up or embellishing things to get someone convicted just because they believe in his guilt. Surely you agree witb that.

But what if they ARE guilty and it's the only way to get a conviction? I'm not saying it's ethical.

[sami]

But what if they ARE guilty and it's the only way to get a conviction? I'm not saying it's ethical.

correct jane.its not ethical but what would we do if in their shoes,they all knew sheila was not capable of the events that took place

[maggie]

no im not saying that at all jane. Of course it matters if hes guilty!

However we cant havevpeople making things up or embellishing things to get someone convicted just because they believe in his guilt. Surely you agree witb that.

I agree not sure, however wrong it may be for a guilty person to walk free, we cannot allow anyone to be convicted on contrived evidence or our whole legal system will lose all credibility.

[David1819]

But what if they ARE guilty and it's the only way to get a conviction? I'm not saying it's ethical.

How can you possibly know if someone is guilty if there is no evidence to convict in the first place?

A conviction should be based on a fair trial and not stuff people made up because they assumed the defendant guilty.

[Jane]

How can you possibly know if someone is guilty if there is no evidence to convict in the first place?

A conviction should be based on a fair trial and not stuff people made up because they assumed the defendant guilty.

Are you suggesting that if someone doesn't get, what you believe to be a fair trial, they must be said to be innocent?

[notsure]

But what if they ARE guilty and it's the only way to get a conviction? I'm not saying it's ethical.

i cant quite believe youe said that jane. It must be this god awful weather!

[David1819]

Are you suggesting that if someone doesn't get, what you believe to be a fair trial, they must be said to be innocent?

Presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a fair trial is a fundamental human right

[Jane]

Presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a fair trial is a fundamental human right

I have no proof, but I suspect there MAY be more guilty people who walk free than innocent who are convicted. I FULLY accept that neither is right but I also accept that we don't live in a perfect world and as human beings, both defence and prosecution barristers are fallible.