What makes Bamber innocent?

[Caroline]

the trouble i have with this case is why the police would turn 4 murders and a suicide in to 5 murders and than have the long job of proving it to a jury, and get egg on their faces if jb is found not guilty ,why would they do that.as for the family dictating to the police ,they would have been told where to go,like taff jones told them.no i think the police have got it right.imo

Certain posters credit the Boutflours with far too much power. 

[mike tesko]

Informants are dangerous people in the sense that whoever they are informing to, or upon, the people who they are providing the information too, want to believe what they are being told. It doesn't take such an informant long to realise this, and at that stage, many of these informants start to make things up because they know the people they are talking to want to hear it, and there is always a pay check at the end of it...

[mike tesko]

Informants are dangerous people in the sense that whoever they are informing to, or upon, the people who they are providing the information too, want to believe what they are being told. It doesn't take such an informant long to realise this, and at that stage, many of these informants start to make things up because they know the people they are talking to want to hear it, and there is always a pay check at the end of it...

PC Robert Carr found himself in 'this' position, by engaging in the investigation at the scene and after with the investigating cops, and 'informing' to his family and the relatives, providing to them information about the operation and the investigation, which entrusted great power over the investigating officers by virtue of the fact that the relatives 'knew' that cops at the scene had staged the death scenes of the two females in the bedroom by claiming both had been found on the bedroom floor either side of the bed, when they had good information that both had originally been on the bed...

[mike tesko]

PC Robert Carr found himself in 'this' position, by engaging in the investigation at the scene and after with the investigating cops, and 'informing' to his family and the relatives, providing to them information about the operation and the investigation, which entrusted great power over the investigating officers by virtue of the fact that the relatives 'knew' that cops at the scene had staged the death scenes of the two females in the bedroom by claiming both had been found on the bedroom floor either side of the bed, when they had good information that both had originally been on the bed...

As more time wore on, the relatives kept 'insisting more and more' that something was 'not right' with the claim that 'Sheila had killed herself' - they 'were' right by the way...

She had 'not' killed herself...

[mike tesko]

Armed with the knowledge of an informant in the form of PC Robert Carr, the relatives themselves gradually realised that (just like it happens in a working relationship of all professional informants who engage with the alleged criminal targets they are being asked to help put away) that the relatives themselves, by September 1985, knew that cops had got themselves too deeply entrenched in their cover up, which was why 'eventually' cops found themselves targeting Jeremy Bamber. The 'pay off' for the relatives was the inheritance...

[Jane]

Informants are dangerous people in the sense that whoever they are informing to, or upon, the people who they are providing the information too, want to believe what they are being told. It doesn't take such an informant long to realise this, and at that stage, many of these informants start to make things up because they know the people they are talking to want to hear it, and there is always a pay check at the end of it...

So presumably we can't rule that out as far as all your "informants" go?

I have no money to pay them, they don't ask for money, they don't expect money, so what is your point, now?

[lookout]

It was Jimmy Carr's daughter who happened to have been staying in the same flat as Jeremy when he was on a working holiday in New Zealand which paved the way for yet more tittle-tattle and hearsay which she obviously relayed back to the UK.

[Caroline]

It was Jimmy Carr's daughter who happened to have been staying in the same flat as Jeremy when he was on a working holiday in New Zealand which paved the way for yet more tittle-tattle and hearsay which she obviously relayed back to the UK.

Working holiday? 

[lookout]

Working holiday? 

That's what they're called when you apply for a 12 month visa.

[lookout]

You're not allowed in either country if you have a criminal record.

[sami]

You perhaps overlook the 'influence' of a 'close friend' and 'Associate' known to the family who was providing them with too much 'inside information' about 'things' that happened 'once cops had got into the farmhouse'...

That person being, PC Robert Carr (RC)...

mike how do you know this was the case,and can show a statement or anything that shows he passed info to the family

[lookout]

RWB was a friend of his. It was a known fact that the Carr brothers were friends of the family/relatives.

It's on one of the statements somewhere.

[sami]

RWB was a friend of his. It was a known fact that the Carr brothers were friends of the family/relatives.

It's on one of the statements somewhere.

thank you lookout ,i will look for it and give it a read

[mike tesko]

Firstly, let's identify under who's authority these missing 77 images were systematically removed. We already know they cut the photographs of Sheila on the bed, and photographs that were taken of the gun cupboard contents, so somebody knows we are onto what they did with the bodies of the victims back at the scene before the bodies were staged by the cops and then photographed, as though the bodies of the two females in particular had been found where they ended up being photographed, but we all know that couldn't be true...

So far, we only have had evidence of 15 of the missing negatives / photographs, there's still another 62 that have been cut out of the negative strips...

[sami]

Firstly, let's identify under who's authority these missing 77 images were systematically removed. We already know they cut the photographs of Sheila on the bed, and photographs that were taken of the gun cupboard contents, so somebody knows we are onto what they did with the bodies of the victims back at the scene before the bodies were staged by the cops and then photographed, as though the bodies of the two females in particular had been found where they ended up being photographed, but we all know that couldn't be true...

evening mike,would ep have destroyed the negitives by now.they wouldnt want that to come out