What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

There is only the word of the relatives that the silencer was ever present inside that gun cupboard on Saturday, the 10th September, 1985, when David Boutflour supposedly 'found it' there. The key players in its introduction into the folklore of this case, were (1) David Boutflour, (2) Ann Eaton, his sister, and (3) Robert Boutflour, their father...

[mike tesko]

There is only the word of the relatives that the silencer was ever present inside that gun cupboard on Saturday, the 10th September, 1985, when David Boutflour supposedly 'found it' there. The key players in its introduction into the folklore of this case, were (1) David Boutflour, (2) Ann Eaton, his sister, and (3) Robert Boutflour, their father...

In other versions of 'the find' the 'executor of the parents estates (Basil John Cock) was present'. But, he did not attend the house until September, 1985. He making mention of how much white fingerprint powder was on everything on that visit. Cops did not start fingerprinting until September 1985, so this sheds more light on when the true introduction of the silencer (DRB/1) must have occurred (September, not August)...

[mike tesko]

Whichever way you look at it, the relatives were solely responsible for the introduction of the silencer (DRB/1), containing the blood, and paint evidence...

[mike tesko]

Whichever way you look at it, the relatives were solely responsible for the introduction of the silencer (DRB/1), containing the blood, and paint evidence...

They introduced 'it' at best on the 12th August 1985, and at worst on the 11th September 1985...

[lookout]

Bamber and Bamber alone is responsible for his circumstances.

You'd better think again.

[Steve_uk]

In other versions of 'the find' the 'executor of the parents estates (Basil John Cock) was present'. But, he did not attend the house until September, 1985. He making mention of how much white fingerprint powder was on everything on that visit. Cops did not start fingerprinting until September 1985, so this sheds more light on when the true introduction of the silencer (DRB/1) must have occurred (September, not August)...

Didn't Jeremy make some reference to the fingerprint powder?

[David1819]

No need, this allegation that he was framed is pure pish!

unfortunately it is not

[Caroline]

unfortunately it is not

I agree - but he's still guilty.

[lookout]

I agree - but he's still guilty.

The only thing that JB's guilty of is not getting himself a decent defence.

[Jane]

The only thing that JB's guilty of is not getting himself a decent defence.

Perhaps his defence didn't feel he gave them enough to defend.

[Caroline]

Perhaps his defence didn't feel he gave them enough to defend.

Hard to defend the indefensible.

[Jane]

Hard to defend the indefensible.

There certainly wouldn't be much enthusiasm, especially if it sounded as if the prosecution was going to wipe the floor with them.

[Caroline]

I think the defence knew he did it.  They certainly were of the opinion he had psychopathic tendencies.

I agree John. It's hard to hide the kind of resentment he must have been harbouring. Rejected at birth and packed off to boarding school - he didn't seem to have any of his own friends. People say he didn't show any anger, I think it's odd that he was so controlled - bit like a pressure cooker - calm on the outside, but boiling away on the inside. The crime scene showed a lot of anger. Sheila didn't bottle things up and she was willing to confront things from her past - like meeting her natural mother. Jeremy saying he wasn't bothered about meeting his, is hard to believe.

[Jane]

I agree John. It's hard to hide the kind of resentment he must have been harbouring. Rejected at birth and packed off to boarding school - he didn't seem to have any of his own friends. People say he didn't show any anger, I think it's odd that he was so controlled - bit like a pressure cooker - calm on the outside, but boiling away on the inside. The crime scene showed a lot of anger. Sheila didn't bottle things up and she was willing to confront things from her past - like meeting her natural mother. Jeremy saying he wasn't bothered about meeting his, is hard to believe.

Caroline, I can't help but feel that everything which affected Sheila re her adoption must also have affected Jeremy. We know very well that internalized feelings of anger and resentment, if not allowed to be expressed WILL at some point find their own way out in devastating ways. Sheila seems to have been capable of releasing hers in places she felt safe, ie Colin. I believe Jeremy kept his bottled. They'd both have had to live with the physical feelings of abandonment because it goes hand in hand with being adopted.

[lookout]

Perhaps his defence didn't feel he gave them enough to defend.

No-------------EP had most of it,hidden/undisclosed.