What makes Bamber innocent?

[lookout]

Well I'm sure that AH wouldn't have said it was Sheila's foot if it hadn't been.

[David1819]

Well I'm sure that AH wouldn't have said it was Sheila's foot if it hadn't been.

AH is an honest and reliable. and if AH was the dishonest type he would have by now come up with much more attention grabbing allegations like dodgy distefano's allegation that MI5 done the murders ect

[lookout]

The man doesn't strike me as being dishonest in any way. He's the type who wouldn't touch the case if he thought for one minute that JB was guilty. His qualities stand out from many others who think they know it all,as he remains quietly confident without the need to take centre stage.

[gringo]

Well I'm sure that AH wouldn't have said it was Sheila's foot if it hadn't been.

  It seems pretty obvious that the pictures are both of Sheila's feet as David claims.
   In support of David's argument we have the word of Andrew Hunter who obtained the photo's from the CCRC. The CCRC had used powers available to them to force EP to hand them over.
   To counter this, it is claimed that EP could have handed over photo's of somebody else's feet to the CCRC based on the fact that EP have not publicly stated that the photo's are of Sheila. Secondly it has been pointed out that the texture is wrong in one photo, something which can easily be discerned simply by comparing the photo's in post 2268 apparently.(although this was seemingly not so obvious to the CCRC and Bamber's lawyers). I wonder why?
    It is obviously too difficult to explain away if the photo's are accepted as genuine so all that is left is questioning the authenticity.
   
   
 
   

[Caroline]

Detective Work 101.

1. Andrew Hunter obtained the photographs, So Instead of being a zealot and convincing myself it must be someone else's foot because what it represents does not favour my beliefs I made enquires 

2. I spoke to Andrew Hunter on the phone he explained to me that he got that photo from the CCRC when they forced EP to turn it over.

3. So I then told him some people doubt its authenticity. His reply was why would Essex police and the CCRC hand over fabricated evidence that favours Jeremy? He then went on to say that those photos of the feet are not in isolation and can be seen in several other autopsy photos and you can clearly make out its Sheila in the entire autopsy photographs.

Have EP stated that the picture is of Sheila's foot?

[gringo]

Have EP stated that the picture is of Sheila's foot?

  Do you doubt that it was handed to the CCRC by EP?

[Caroline]

  Do you doubt that it was handed to the CCRC by EP?

I asked if EP have stated that the picture is of Sheila's foot - it's a simple enough question.

[lookout]

  It seems pretty obvious that the pictures are both of Sheila's feet as David claims.
   In support of David's argument we have the word of Andrew Hunter who obtained the photo's from the CCRC. The CCRC had used powers available to them to force EP to hand them over.
   To counter this, it is claimed that EP could have handed over photo's of somebody else's feet to the CCRC based on the fact that EP have not publicly stated that the photo's are of Sheila. Secondly it has been pointed out that the texture is wrong in one photo, something which can easily be discerned simply by comparing the photo's in post 2268 apparently.(although this was seemingly not so obvious to the CCRC and Bamber's lawyers). I wonder why?
    It is obviously too difficult to explain away if the photo's are accepted as genuine so all that is left is questioning the authenticity.
   
   
 
   

And authority.

[David1819]

  It seems pretty obvious that the pictures are both of Sheila's feet as David claims.
   In support of David's argument we have the word of Andrew Hunter who obtained the photo's from the CCRC. The CCRC had used powers available to them to force EP to hand them over.
   To counter this, it is claimed that EP could have handed over photo's of somebody else's feet to the CCRC based on the fact that EP have not publicly stated that the photo's are of Sheila. Secondly it has been pointed out that the texture is wrong in one photo, something which can easily be discerned simply by comparing the photo's in post 2268 apparently.(although this was seemingly not so obvious to the CCRC and Bamber's lawyers). I wonder why?
    It is obviously too difficult to explain away if the photo's are accepted as genuine so all that is left is questioning the authenticity.
   
 

The perceived difference in texture has a very logical explanation. The crime scene photos are taken during the morning and the autopsy photos were taken during the early afternoon. Stages of biological death will alter the appearance of the skin. The difference in skin texture actually adds more weight to the authenticity rather than cast doubt 

[Caroline]

The perceived difference in texture has a very logical explanation. The crime scene photos are taken during the morning and the autopsy photos were taken during the early afternoon. Stages of biological death will alter the appearance of the skin. The difference in skin texture actually adds more weight to the authenticity rather than cast doubt

Of course it does David, with you being a qualified mortician!  The difference in texture isn't 'perceived' you can SEE it!

[lookout]

This is what I've " unsuccessfully " been trying to explain that a body lying in a mortuary goes through immense changes of breaking down,which begins at the point of death anyway,hence there are dramatic changes in the visual appearance of everything that the person used to be,particularly the skin.

[gringo]

I asked if EP have stated that the picture is of Sheila's foot - it's a simple enough question.

   You know that EP have made no public statement one way or the other and your "question" is simply a means to avoid the real questions that arise because of what the pictures show.
   It is just as easy to ask if EP have denied that the photo is of Sheila's foot but equally as pointless. David has shared what Andrew Hunter had to say on the matter.
   Do you think that either David or AH are lying? 
   

[Caroline]

This is what I've " unsuccessfully " been trying to explain that a body lying in a mortuary goes through immense changes of breaking down,which begins at the point of death anyway,hence there are dramatic changes in the visual appearance of everything that the person used to be,particularly the skin.

Of course the body changes Lookout but it doesn't wrinkle and shrivel to look 30 years older than when living. And heels that were smooth, don't dry out and become cracked.

If David is such good friends with AH, he could ask for a copy of the picture that shows it is attached to Sheila and prove me wrong. I don't mind being wrong, but I won't believe something just because I read it in the paper or a supporter tells me it's true. Been duped too many times on here for that.

[Caroline]

   You know that EP have made no public statement one way or the other and your "question" is simply a means to avoid the real questions that arise because of what the pictures show.
   It is just as easy to ask if EP have denied that the photo is of Sheila's foot but equally as pointless. David has shared what Andrew Hunter had to say on the matter.
   Do you think that either David or AH are lying? 
 

I don't trust David as far as I could throw him. That good enough for you?

[gringo]

I don't trust David as far as I could throw him. That good enough for you?

   Yes that is fair enough.