What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

Don't post such ridiculous nonsense.  Are you drunk?

Wait until the expert takes up the challenge...

You can't even say how those marks got thereon the top part of her hand, your struggling because sooner or later, you are going to have to deal with the truth...

[sami]

Wait until the expert takes up the challenge...

You can't even say how those marks got thereon the top part of her hand, your struggling because sooner or later, you are going to have to deal with the truth...

which expert mike .and when will he or she be taking on the challenge

[mike tesko]

which expert mike .and when will he or she be taking on the challenge

The one which the CCRC will be appointing, as a 'last throw of the dice'...

[sami]

The one which the CCRC will be appointing, as a 'last throw of the dice'...

thanks,lets hope he can clear this up

[Jane]

Wait until the expert takes up the challenge...

You can't even say how those marks got thereon the top part of her hand, your struggling because sooner or later, you are going to have to deal with the truth...

Which particular truth in particular, Mike. You've offered so many. Most conflicting. To accept one, it would become necessary to deny many others....................which rather relegates them to the realms of UNtruth.

[mike tesko]

Which particular truth in particular, Mike. You've offered so many. Most conflicting. To accept one, it would become necessary to deny many others....................which rather relegates them to the realms of UNtruth.

Use that rhetoric on your own changing views once you come into possession of new information, or fresh evidence. Your attempt to turn me into the fool that I am, has thus backfired upon yourself. I am still the same fool I always ever was, but you have just exposed yourself as one. Having said that, always bear in mind the old saying - 'A fool may have the audience of kings'...

[mike tesko]

I have just laid my hands on PC West's, hand written witness statement, dated, 13th September, 1985, consisting of 10 pages, signed by him. Its contents at first blush appear to raise alarm bells over the authenticity of his claim that Jeremy had called police at 3.26am...

[mike tesko]

I have just laid my hands on PC West's, hand written witness statement, dated, 13th September, 1985, consisting of 10 pages, signed by him. Its contents at first blush appear to raise alarm bells over the authenticity of his claim that Jeremy had called police at 3.26am...

In view of what I have just seen, I can say that Jeremy's call was almost certainly first received by PC West at 3.36am, not at 3.26am...

[mike tesko]

I can also say, although I am not a hand writing expert, that the entire contents of the phone log purporting to have been made at 3.36am, by PC West appears not to have been written out by PC West himself - hand writing appears different. Additionally, whoever filled in the contents of the 3.36am phone log contents, only refers to PC West by his collar number (1990), not his name, and PC Wests signature does not appear anywhere at all on that phone log. My initial gut feeling is that 'somebody other than PC West has rewritten the contents of the 3.36am log for the purpose of editing out information about the sighting of the unidentified male at the bedroom window by PC Myall short after his arrival at the incident'...

[mike tesko]

There appears to be information contained on the 3.36am log that provide clues to the fact that the one (C1) disclosed is not the original C1 form, but a rewritten one...

[mike tesko]

There appears to be information contained on the 3.36am log that provide clues to the fact that the one (C1) disclosed is not the original C1 form, but a rewritten one...

I shall give my reasons for why I am suggesting that in a moment. First of all, until last night I had never seen the full handwritten witness statement of PC West, I had only seen the typed version...

[sami]

Use that rhetoric on your own changing views once you come into possession of new information, or fresh evidence. Your attempt to turn me into the fool that I am, has thus backfired upon yourself. I am still the same fool I always ever was, but you have just exposed yourself as one. Having said that, always bear in my the old saying - 'A fool may have the audience of kings'...

is that quote from shakespear'mike,or dickens

[mike tesko]

I shall give my reasons for why I am suggesting that in a moment. First of all, until last night I had never seen the full handwritten witness statement of PC West, I had only seen the typed version...

I have just checked in our 'statements and transcripts' section, and only the typed (unsigned) statement version of that statement was public knowledge until now...

It makes me wonder why nobody asked to see the original hand written version of Wests, 13th September, 1985, witness statement before now, so that a comparison of the written word in the disclosed 'C1' form, could be compared to PC Wests' handwriting in his own witness statement. Anyway, I appear to be the first one to have had the opportunity to make 'that' comparison, and to me the contents recorded in that 'disclosed' C1 form bearing the time of 3.36am, was not written up by PC West himself. I believe the contents have been forged for whatever reason...

[mike tesko]

I have just checked in our 'statements and transcripts' section, and only the typed (unsigned) statement version of that statement was public knowledge until now...

It makes me wonder why nobody asked to see the original hand written version of Wests, 13th September, 1985, witness statement before now, so that a comparison of the written word in the disclosed 'C1' form, could be compared to PC Wests' handwriting in his own witness statement. Anyway, I appear to be the first one to have had the opportunity to make 'that' comparison, and to me the contents recorded in that 'disclosed' C1 form bearing the time of 3.36am, was not written up by PC West himself. I believe the contents have been forged for whatever reason...

The first thing that springs to mind, that is, in the mind of a highly suspicious old lag like me, is that 'PC West' was 'not the person who received Jeremy's 3.36am call', somebody else was. I have in my minds eye, as I am tapping away at the key pad of my tablet, that PC West was the recipient of the earlier call made to cops by Ralph Bamber at 3.26am, and that the obvious disparity between the contents of the disclosed 'C1' form (3.36am) and his own hand written witness statement (13th September,1985) where he 'recites' the purported conversation he had with Jeremy at 3.36am, is recorded in the latter by PC West having listened to the 'audio recording' of Jeremy's 3.36am call to somebody else...

That in my opinion is what has been done...

PC West has switched the role he played in this matter, by substituting his involvement with Ralph Bambers 3.26am call, by claiming instead that 'he' dealt with Jeremy's 3.36am, call...

That was why during the trial and since, great play has been made regarding the time of Jeremy's 3.36am, call, by suggesting it had happened 10 minutes earlier, when it had not. It was Ralph Bamber who had spoken to PC West at 3.26am, and it was as a result of that call from Ralph Bamber  at 3.26am, which led to the occupants of CA05 being deployed to the incident (3.35am) before Jeremy had even spoken to the cops...

[mike tesko]

All efforts must now be geared to 'identifying' the person who received Jeremy's call to Chelmsford police station at 3.36am. I am 99.9% certain it wasn't PC West, otherwise somebody would not have felt it necessary to 'forge' the contents of the disclosed 'C1' form (3.36am)...