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Offline sami

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1920 on: May 29, 2016, 02:27:PM »
stop being ridiculous...

It is quite obvious that Sheila was the person who had 'grabbed' her mother by the throat to try and kill her. The presence of corresponding linear marks upon Junes throat and the top part of Sheila's right hand provides confirmation of this. It is very obvious as to why Sheila's hand got marked as it did, because Junes neck was grabbed below where the corresponding blood on her throat was present. Sheila grabbed her mother slightly below this blood was, and as a result of her mothers head lolling forwards and sideways trying to struggle free of Shiela's grip, marks were left on the top part of Sheila's right hand. Nothing could be clearer. The pathologist, Peter Venezis knew that the killer had grabbed June by the throat because he said as much when he testified during the trial. He would have known and did know about the blood that was present upon the top part of Sheila's right hand, and he would have almost certainly have concluded that it had got there at the time Sheila was trying to throttle her mother, on an occasion seven Sheila did not have possession or control of the loaded anshuzt rifle, otherwise she would have kept shooting at her mother, not trying to strangle her. We also know that the killer only shot June with Five bullets whilst June was in her bed. Which means does it not, that either the shooter was satisfied that enough bullets had been fired into her mother to have killed her, or that Sheila had run out of bullets...

This makes me think, that Sheila had already used five or six rounds up already, or that she knew she needed the other bullets still loaded in the gun to try to kill off her dad...

Had Sheila killed off dad, before she started to shoot her mother in bed?

I personally now do not think so, I think the remaining bullets were needed to try and kill her dad...
why did she not use the rifle to beat her.make no mistake some one used it on nb to give him a awful beating in the kitchen,black eyes,broken nose and other injurys ;)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1921 on: May 29, 2016, 02:28:PM »
Now, first of all, don't you or anybody else try to tell me what to say. I have seen the disgusting photographs that these so called decent cops took of Sheila on the bed, you haven't so maybe that does not entitle you to the same view or opinion as me. Yes, the images they took are indecent, and no doubt that's why 7 associated images have been removed from the disclosed material. In so far as to whom did those blue leggings belong too, I don't think they belonged to June Bamber, or had been worn by her during her death struggle. I don't think they belonged to Ralph Bamber, because he was photographed downstairs in his pyjama bottoms. I don't think any of the cops had been wearing them, so that leaves Sheila Caffell. Now, it seems to me that you are not interested in getting at the truth in this case, because it is important to know which of the two females was wearing those blue leggings at the scene. I don't think it was June Bamber because of all the blood running down her legs. On the other hand, I am firmly of the belief that because Sheila Caffells legs appear to have been so clean, that 'she' was the wearer of them. Moving on from this, it needs to be found out, when, and whom had removed those key leggings, and lastly but not least, who had washed them or rinsed them out?
care to post those disgusting photos police took ;)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1922 on: May 29, 2016, 02:29:PM »

Have you been reading porn, Mike? The above suggestion is getting pretty close to you posting such.

Ask the cops who undressed Sheila when her body was on top of the bed with only a single shot to her neck at 'that' stage. Ask the cops why they raised the hem of her nightdress and took lewd photographs of her body when she was unconscious. You seem to know what porn is...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1923 on: May 29, 2016, 02:30:PM »
care to post those disgusting photos police took ;)

Will cops disclose the 7 missing negatives of negative strip 00021 which captured some of those images?

Write and ask them too...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1924 on: May 29, 2016, 02:38:PM »
Will cops disclose the 7 missing negatives of negative strip 00021 which captured some of those images?

Write and ask them too...
ive already emailed them'ep' waiting for their reply

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1925 on: May 29, 2016, 02:50:PM »
why did she not use the rifle to beat her.make no mistake some one used it on nb to give him a awful beating in the kitchen,black eyes,broken nose and other injurys ;)

After much contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that either at the time Sheila was shooting her mother who was in bed (first episode of 5 shots) that Sheila (a) thought that she had killed her mother, or (b) that Sheila was interrupted in what she was trying to do by her dad appearing in the bedroom?

If hard pushed I would be inclined to believe that she got interrupted as per scenario (b)...

So, she fired a shot or two off at dad...

Dad darts off downstairs to the kitchen phone, and Sheila fires a shot at him whilst he makes off down the main stairs. She eventually pursues him downstairs into the kitchen. By the time she enters the kitchen, dad has already made the very brief call to Jeremy, and he has started talking on the phone to the police at 3.26am. Sheila has four or five live rounds still in the rifle, and she manages to fire all four or five rounds off, killing dad outright. When she is out of bullets, she proceeded to hit dad with the empty weapon...

During this episode she prods dad with the muzzle end of the anshuzt rifles barrel, and jabs him on the back of his neck after warming the muzzle in the aga...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1926 on: May 29, 2016, 02:51:PM »
ive already emailed them'ep' waiting for their reply

Don't forget to let us know what they have to say about it...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1927 on: May 29, 2016, 02:52:PM »
ive a couple of FREINDS in ep.first i doubt if any evidence they have will free jb,secondly assuming there  is evidence than they will destroy it,they will never give jb the chance to prove them corrupt and than have to pay him millions for false imprisonment,WILL NEVER HAPPEN ;)
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1928 on: May 29, 2016, 02:55:PM »
Next, Sheila reloads the gun. She could get 10 rounds in the ammunition magazine, and one already loaded into the breach, providing her with a possible maximum of 11 shots at her disposal...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1929 on: May 29, 2016, 02:57:PM »
After much contemplation, I have come to the conclusion that either at the time Sheila was shooting her mother who was in bed (first episode of 5 shots) that Sheila (a) thought that she had killed her mother, or (b) that Sheila was interrupted in what she was trying to do by her dad appearing in the bedroom?

If hard pushed I would be inclined to believe that she got interrupted as per scenario (b)...



So, she fired a shot or two off at dad...

Dad darts off downstairs to the kitchen phone, and Sheila fires a shot at him whilst he makes off down the main stairs. She eventually pursues him downstairs into the kitchen. By the time she enters the kitchen, dad has already made the very brief call to Jeremy, and he has started talking on the phone to the police at 3.26am. Sheila has four or five live rounds still in the rifle, and she manages to fire all four or five rounds off, killing dad outright. When she is out of bullets, she proceeded to hit dad with the empty weapon...

During this episode she prods dad with the muzzle end of the anshuzt rifles barrel, and jabs him on the back of his neck after warming the muzzle in the aga...
Mike she was exhausted by the Tuesday night after attending two weekend parties, riding down to Essex and enduring a shopping expedition with June, along with additional duties caring for the twins. I just don't see her metamorphosing into this Lynda Carter Wonder Woman figure, when even Jeremy asserts that when he left she evinced her customary vacant stare..

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1930 on: May 29, 2016, 02:59:PM »
Next, Sheila reloads the gun. She could get 10 rounds in the ammunition magazine, and one already loaded into the breach, providing her with a possible maximum of 11 shots at her disposal...

As Sheila reaches the top landing of the main stairs, she sees her mother near the entrance of her bedroom, her mother is staggering around, so Sheila must have felt very confident in being able to kill her off with her hand by grabbing her mother by the throat, forcing her down, and whilst she was down, only then did Sheila shoot her mother twice more, once directly between the eyes...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1931 on: May 29, 2016, 03:00:PM »
Mike she was exhausted by the Tuesday night after attending two weekend parties, riding down to Essex and enduring a shopping expedition with June, along with additional duties caring for the twins. I just don't see her metamorphosing into this Lynda Carter Wonder Woman figure, when even Jeremy asserts that when he left she evinced her customary vacant stare..
steve the excuse they will use is she was in a psychotic state

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1932 on: May 29, 2016, 03:05:PM »
Ask the cops who undressed Sheila when her body was on top of the bed with only a single shot to her neck at 'that' stage. Ask the cops why they raised the hem of her nightdress and took lewd photographs of her body when she was unconscious. You seem to know what porn is...


Why? You're the one proclaiming their alleged misdoings?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1933 on: May 29, 2016, 03:08:PM »
Mike she was exhausted by the Tuesday night after attending two weekend parties, riding down to Essex and enduring a shopping expedition with June, along with additional duties caring for the twins. I just don't see her metamorphosing into this Lynda Carter Wonder Woman figure, when even Jeremy asserts that when he left she evinced her customary vacant stare..

She appears to have been somewhat disinterested in socialising with her aunty Pamela at about 10pm, and had gone upstairs to bed, but no-one really knows whether she went to bed, or not. If she went to bed, and let's say she hadn't been the killer, how did the real killer manage to coax her out of her bed in the middle of the night, and based upon cops official version of events (Sheila found dead on bedroom floor in possession of the rifle), how had the killer managed to persuade her to come past her badly wounded if not dead mother near the bedroom door, and waltz her to the other side of the bed, make her lay down to be shot, without any resistance whatsoever by Sheila in trying to stop herself from being shot, or even reacting to the shooting of her mother? She had sufficient energy and mobility to go shopping on that morning with her mother, and her two boys, and she was motivated that afternoon to visit her brother Jeremy who was on the tractor in a field that was farmed by the Banners...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1934 on: May 29, 2016, 03:11:PM »

Why? You're the one proclaiming their alleged misdoings?

No, I am not. Jeremy has already complained about these matters himself, he accused cops of using the bodies of his deceased family like 'props' in a stage production'. You should be pointing your finger at the cops, not me...
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