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Offline David1819

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1800 on: May 28, 2016, 07:52:PM »
Sheila had long slender fingers that matched her long slender feet. Those fingers and palm belonged to a smaller hand.

The stain in smeared by movement making the fingers seem slightly fatter.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1801 on: May 28, 2016, 07:58:PM »
Wiped her hand? That's only the fingers! Hmmmm, wonder where the palm print went?  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

The palm print? why assume there is only one? The crime scene photos could prove more. Since they don't disclose some photos and have destroyed negatives its like they have something hide  ;D

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1802 on: May 28, 2016, 08:01:PM »
The stain in smeared by movement making the fingers seem slightly fatter.




I suppose allowances could be made for movement and also " spreading " of blood on an absorbent surface,but I still don't think it was Sheila's hand.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1803 on: May 28, 2016, 08:04:PM »
Why should,or would the Bible have so much significance ? Brcause it did,that's for sure.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1804 on: May 28, 2016, 08:06:PM »
Why do you assume she would get her hands bloody then go straight back to touching the trigger?

As Mike already mentioned she wiped the blood onto her nightie, the material will absorb the blood easily.

Yes, she did, and there is no way of 'knowing' how long had elapsed between Sheila 'grabbing' her mother by the throat and wiping her right hand upon her own  nightdress and Sheila getting the index finger of her right hand 'back on the trigger'?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1805 on: May 28, 2016, 08:15:PM »
The palm print? why assume there is only one? The crime scene photos could prove more. Since they don't disclose some photos and have destroyed negatives its like they have something hide  ;D
have you any proof such photos exsist

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1806 on: May 28, 2016, 08:19:PM »
well she had to pull the trigger twice to kill herself blood does not conjeal that quickly as to leave no trace .and the amount of blood in the blooded hand mark on her nightie shows there would have been blood on her hands and the trigger

You can't make that assumption because in the first instance now that it looks odds on that Sheila had tried to 'throttle' her mother, no-one knows for sure, or with any degree of certainty, at which point Sheila had 'grabbed' her mother by the throat? Neither do we know at 'what time' June Banner was 'shot between the eyes', and killed. But, we do know what time Sheila was shot on each of the two occasions she got shot. We know for example, that Sheila sustained the first of two shots whilst she was present downstairs in the kitchen at around 7.37am, and in any event, certainly before 7.45am, because staff in the control room, were referring to the' death of the second body' mentioned as a 'suicide' by that stage ( refer Linda, contacting DS Davidson (soco) regarding police dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, one male, one female, a murder, and a suicide). Sheila could 'not' have committed suicide downstairs in the region of the kitchen, by 7.45am, with use of the anshuzt rifle, which was clearly on view at an upstairs window and had continuously been n view at that upstairs bedroom window from 7.15am, onward...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1807 on: May 28, 2016, 08:20:PM »
I thought after the first shot she involuntarily wiped the spot where the bullet had penetrated.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1808 on: May 28, 2016, 08:21:PM »
have you any proof such photos exsist

Yes, such photographs do exist, and yes, cops cut out damning negatives from two strips of 10 negatives, because to have left them alone, was akin to cops involved in this debacle 'cutting their own throats'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1809 on: May 28, 2016, 08:22:PM »
You can't make that assumption because in the first instance now that it looks odds on that Sheila had tried to 'throttle' her mother, no-one knows for sure, or with any degree of certainty, at which point Sheila had 'grabbed' her mother by the throat? Neither do we know at 'what time' June Banner was 'shot between the eyes', and killed. But, we do know what time Sheila was shot on each of the two occasions she got shot. We know for example, that Sheila sustained the first of two shots whilst she was present downstairs in the kitchen at around 7.37am, and in any event, certainly before 7.45am, because staff in the control room, were referring to the' death of the second body' mentioned as a 'suicide' by that stage ( refer Linda, contacting DS Davidson (soco) regarding police dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, one male, one female, a murder, and a suicide). Sheila could 'not' have committed suicide downstairs in the region of the kitchen, by 7.45am, with use of the anshuzt rifle, which was clearly on view at an upstairs window and had continuously been n view at that upstairs bedroom window from 7.15am, onward...
why did the blood not drip on to the front of sheila's nightie after she wandered upstairs not a drop on the front

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1810 on: May 28, 2016, 08:24:PM »
Yes, such photographs do exist, and yes, cops cut out damning negatives from two strips of 10 negatives, because to have left them alone, was akin to cops involved in this debacle 'cutting their own throats'...
so how we gonna prove this or how is jb's team going to

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1811 on: May 28, 2016, 08:24:PM »
I thought after the first shot she involuntarily wiped the spot where the bullet had penetrated.

No, cops attempted to 'stem the flow of blood' immediately upon the anshuzt rifle discharging the second shot, but 'it was too late' by that stage, to having any real prospect of saving her life...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1812 on: May 28, 2016, 08:25:PM »
The palm print? why assume there is only one? The crime scene photos could prove more. Since they don't disclose some photos and have destroyed negatives its like they have something hide  ;D




Indeed. They'd no right whatsoever to have destroyed anything,especially after having been told not to. What you can gather from this malicious and deliberate act was that it would have been in JB's favour had it been saved.
There MUST be something to hide,even now, that there's no response from EP regarding withheld files.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1813 on: May 28, 2016, 08:26:PM »
so how we gonna prove this or how is jb's team going to

What is going to happen, now that I have drawn attention to this key piece of evidence, is that people are going to start to think, ' there may be more to what this 'tesko' guy has been saying after all...

Then, after the dust settles, what is going to happen, is this...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1814 on: May 28, 2016, 08:28:PM »
I thought after the first shot she involuntarily wiped the spot where the bullet had penetrated.

No because that would have caused a large stain over the spot in question