What makes Bamber innocent?

[Caroline]

After June was on the floor shot.

She must have been still alive in this scenario, or what would be the point in strangling her? With that in mins; the first thing you would do if someone tried to strangle you or grab your neck, is to grab their arm. No hand prints on Sheila's arm but we don't know if Jeremy's arm was grabbed. We KNOW the forensic state of Sheila as she died - we don't know what forensic evidence was on Jeremy.

[buddy]

She must have been still alive in this scenario, or what would be the point in strangling her? With that in mins; the first thing you would do if someone tried to strangle you or grab your neck, is to grab their arm. No hand prints on Sheila's arm but we don't know if Jeremy's arm was grabbed. We KNOW the forensic state of Sheila as she died - we don't know what forensic evidence was on Jeremy.

Pure hatred.She was probably in no state to raise her arms poor woman.

[John]

I agree Colin said Sheila could and had used violence against inanimate objects and herself.  Think he said that on one occasion she slapped his face but he admitted giving her a black eye and being physically violent towards her.
I accept many of the arguments the 'innocents' put up and indeed I have used many of them myself but my problem is that when these arguments are put together as one complete argument to prove JBs innocence imo they don't stand. up.  When  other facts and conflicting arguments come into play I fnd his innocence or much rather Sheila's guilt is difficult to accept. 

An excellent post Maggie.  I'm glad to see you realise the claims just don't stack up.  Throwing a strop, punching a window or throwing objects is quite common in many domestic disputes within dysfunctional families but what occurred at WHF was not a spur of the moment occurrence. It was a event planned to coincide with the entire family being together.

[John]

ive looked but failed to find it

Probably yet another Tesko myth.   

As regards June, the marks in blood on her throat were most probably from her own fingers when she put her hand up to protect herself.  Noticeable that these same marks were absent from Sheila's neck proving that she never regained composure after the first shot and further proving that she never fired any second shot.

[John]

Looking at #1724 again I would have thought had she grabbed her mother by the neck the nails might have been chipped. Were June's fingernails scrutinized for residue of any kind? It's unlikely Jeremy was involved in these marks had he worn gloves throughout.

Had she done that she would have had blood from June all over her hands and nightdress.

[John]

There's also the accuracy of the shots and the way the victims were incapacitated. There's so much written about how easy Sheila would have found the gun to use, which just acts as smokescreen to Jeremy's shooting prowess.

Spot on!

[Caroline]

Pure hatred.She was probably in no state to raise her arms poor woman.

June was literally covered in blood, there is no way Sheila could have gotten that close without getting blood on her nightdress. Sheila didn't strangle June.

[mike tesko]

She did..

[lookout]

Were there not marks around Sheila's neck too,as well as June's ?

[Caroline]

Were there not marks around Sheila's neck too,as well as June's ?

No

[Caroline]

She did..

Didn't (to infinity  )

[lookout]

No

Oh, I think there were fingermarks.

[buddy]

June was literally covered in blood, there is no way Sheila could have gotten that close without getting blood on her nightdress. Sheila didn't strangle June.

Shiela didn't need to lay on her, just strangle her.

[lookout]

An outstretched arm would have sufficed,especially Sheila's long arm.
No need for bodily contact then.

[buddy]

they may chip or break if you try loading that magazine twice.which she has supposed to have done.without leaving any prints on it

You obviously have no idea how to load a magazine. You don't use your nails, just the flesh part of your thumb.