What makes Bamber innocent?

[maggie]

He was trying to fit in somewhere, some space, whether it was White House Farm, Gresham's School or Gartree Prison. Always trying, from the earliest days when he would emulate this strange older man in his choice of breakfast food, before he was sent away on a fool's errand, trying to keep up with his father in farming, trying to understand June's wavelength, attempting to comprehend Sheila. Only when he realized he couldn't do any of these things did the practical jokes start, as he realized it was all a charade..

I find that very sad, Steve and it may very possibly have been true.  Just reading Colin's book... at last.  I am loving it, I have great admiration for Colin's courage and understanding and willingness to shoulder some of wha he saw as his responsibility.  They were all victims whoever pulled the trigger imo.

[mike tesko]

Cops and experts never explained the bloodied marks on the top part of Sheila's right hand. Is this evidence that Sheila had grabbed June by the throat during a struggle with her?

[sami]

According to the pathologist,  the killer of June Bamber had grabbed her by the throat - oh, look at the marks on the top of Sheila's right hand...

but mike if thats true than there should be blooded prints on the rifle or at least traces of sheila's blood on it

[Zoso]

Recent documents posted by Mike have now been added to the archives.

[John]

Get lost...

ditto

[John]

Cops and experts never explained the bloodied marks on the top part of Sheila's right hand. Is this evidence that Sheila had grabbed June by the throat during a struggle with her?

Total fiction!   Sheila never attacked anyone.

[sami]

Total fiction!   Sheila never attacked anyone.

john the key to this case is to show sheila could not have done it, despite lots of evidence showing sheila did not do it.they are in denial .but they cant show jb could not have done it.blood on her hand,'none on the rifle'violent fight in kitchen,'not a scratch on her'.the bullets were too small to get prints ,but the magazine should have had sc prints on it,ditto none

[mike tesko]

Total fiction!   Sheila never attacked anyone.

Refer to the pathologists trial testimony - somebody 'had grabbed' June Bamber by the throat', noe 'those marks' on Junes neck and the 'top part of Sheila's right hand' are 'a perfect match', so there can be no  'mistaking', who did what, and in any event 'why was Sheila trying to throttle her mother'?

Me thinks I know the answer...

You think whatever you like, the evidence is 'overwhelming', Sheila had not only shot her mother, but she had tried to throttle her, the corresponding hand marks on Junes throat, and the bloodstained marks on the top of Sheila's right hand, being 'all the evidence' required to prove an association between both parties, who must have been at conflict with one another, just before June Bamber had been killed. At that time, Sheila's actions being a telling factor in the role she played in her mother's death...

[lookout]

Total fiction!   Sheila never attacked anyone.

Colin reckoned that she could use violence. What about punching walls,putting her hand though a glass window,what next-------------people ?
Even Freddie the Coke was scared of her.

You MUST have come across some violent women in your past ?

[maggie]

Colin reckoned that she could use violence. What about punching walls,putting her hand though a glass window,what next-------------people ?
Even Freddie the Coke was scared of her.

You MUST have come across some violent women in your past ?

I agree Colin said Sheila could and had used violence against inanimate objects and herself.  Think he said that on one occasion she slapped his face but he admitted giving her a black eye and being physically violent towards her.
I accept many of the arguments the 'innocents' put up and indeed I have used many of them myself but my problem is that when these arguments are put together as one complete argument to prove JBs innocence imo they don't stand. up.  When  other facts and conflicting arguments come into play I fnd his innocence or much rather Sheila's guilt is difficult to accept. 

[sami]

Colin reckoned that she could use violence. What about punching walls,putting her hand though a glass window,what next-------------people ?
Even Freddie the Coke was scared of her.

You MUST have come across some violent women in your past ?

walls and glass are not people.the word of a coke head means nothing.he will say anything to get another line up the nose

[Steve_uk]

Refer to the pathologists trial testimony - somebody 'had grabbed' June Bamber by the throat', noe 'those marks' on Junes neck and the 'top part of Sheila's right hand' are 'a perfect match', so there can be no  'mistaking', who did what, and in any event 'why was Sheila trying to throttle her mother'?

Me thinks I know the answer...

You think whatever you like, the evidence is 'overwhelming', Sheila had not only shot her mother, but she had tried to throttle her, the corresponding hand marks on Junes throat, and the bloodstained marks on the top of Sheila's right hand, being 'all the evidence' required to prove an association between both parties, who must have been at conflict with one another, just before June Bamber had been killed. At that time, Sheila's actions being a telling factor in the role she played in her mother's death...

Could someone put the link up to this?

[sami]

Could someone put the link up to this?

ive looked but failed to find it

[lookout]

Could someone put the link up to this?

Steve,it's in PS Woodcock's COLP statement where he states that he was,quote " struck by the fingermarks around her neck that appeared to be in blood,unquote ".

He then went on to say,quote, " there was bloodstaining on her legs and nightdress and HAVING SEEN THE BODY IN THE KITCHEN and thought of a struggle taking place  as on seeing June's body,the thought of a struggle remained,unquote ."

[Caroline]

Could someone put the link up to this?

It's in the autopsy report, it doesn't say someone grabbed her by the throat, just that she had 'linear marks on her neck'