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Offline sami

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1695 on: May 27, 2016, 12:57:PM »
Shouldn't you be requesting 'public access' to the 'crime scene video'?
true tell me where i should make that request.and i will

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1696 on: May 27, 2016, 12:58:PM »
Further confirmation that the magazines associated with Pargetters BRNO rifle, were not compatible with Anshutz.

No, it isn't...

Why didn't 'Pryor' examine the 14 spent cartridge casings (MDF/100) which were originally part of the 'batch of crime scene ammunition', spent cartridge casings which were phased out only to be 'replaced' by 14 bullet cases, from 'unofficial test firings of .22 ammunition', via the anshuzt rifle, on occasions prior to the 20th September, 1985...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1697 on: May 27, 2016, 12:59:PM »
true tell me where i should make that request.and i will

To (1) Essex police, and (2) to the CCRC in Birmingham...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1698 on: May 27, 2016, 01:00:PM »
No, it isn't...

Why didn't 'Pryor' examine the 14 spent cartridge casings ((MDF/100) which were originally part of the 'batch of crime scene ammunition', spent cartridge casings which were phased out only to be 'replaced' by 14 bullet cases, from 'unofficial test firings of .22 ammunition', via the anshuzt rifle, on occasions prior to the 20th September, 1985...

I think the confirmation is the bit where he says that the magazines of the two rifles were incompatible with each other.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1699 on: May 27, 2016, 01:01:PM »
To (1) Essex police, and (2) to the CCRC in Birmingham...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1700 on: May 27, 2016, 01:04:PM »
I think the confirmation is the bit where he says that the magazines of the two rifles were incompatible with each other.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1701 on: May 27, 2016, 01:17:PM »
No, it isn't...

Why didn't 'Pryor' examine the 14 spent cartridge casings (MDF/100) which were originally part of the 'batch of crime scene ammunition', spent cartridge casings which were phased out only to be 'replaced' by 14 bullet cases, from 'unofficial test firings of .22 ammunition', via the anshuzt rifle, on occasions prior to the 20th September, 1985...

Let's get the facts right, so that there is 'nowhere to hide' for anyone who is professing to be telling the truth. According to the ballistic experts testimony, he carried out 'official test firing' of 'control ammunition' using the 'anshuzt rifle', on three key dates. Allow me to state what those three dates were, (1) 20th September, 1985, (2) 25th September, 1985, and (3) 2nd October, 1985...

Now, go to the 'individual, General Examination Records' pertaining to each of the 25 bullet casings...

You will there find, ' confirmation' that there had been 'an earlier test fire', prior to the 20th September, 1985, which involved 'comparison tests' being carried out, using 'test fired' ammunition, on the following dates, (1) 12th September, 1985, (2) 13th September, 1985, (3) 18th September, 1985, and (4) 19th September 1985...

On all these occasions, comparison tests were 'performed' using control ammunition test fired in the anshuzt rifle, on a date prior to the 20th September, 1985. Once you substitute 14 of the original bullet cases that were loaded, and fired via Anthony Pargeters .22 'Bruno, bolt action rifle', with spent cartridges that had been loafed into the anshuzt rifle and test fired on an occasion before the 20th September, 1985, you were always going to get confirmation that the 'substituted' bullet casings had been loaded and fired in the anshuzt rifle, because to be blunt, ' they had been'. But, what about the ' original 14 bullet casings (MDF/100), that had been loaded into Anthony Pargeters .22 Bruno rifle and fired during the killing spree?

Pryor never conducted 'tests' on those...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1702 on: May 27, 2016, 01:18:PM »

thank you for clearing that up,hartley

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1703 on: May 27, 2016, 01:21:PM »


That bloke must be in on it too!  ;) ;D
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1704 on: May 27, 2016, 01:22:PM »


You 'still don't get it', do ya?

Forget what Pryor says, it is meaningless until he examines the 14 bullet cases (MDF/100) still safely retained at the lab'...

'These 14 bullet cases', were 14 of the 25 bullet cases associated with the 24 bullets fired between use of (a) the anshuzt rifle, and (b) the Bruno rifle. The other bullet case, was associated with / to (c) the cops gun...


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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1705 on: May 27, 2016, 01:30:PM »
You 'still don't get it', do ya?

Forget what Pryor says, it is meaningless until he examines the 14 bullet cases (MDF/100) still safely retained at the lab'...

'These 14 bullet cases', were 14 of the 25 bullet cases associated with the 24 bullets fired between use of (a) the anshuzt rifle, and (b) the Bruno rifle. The other bullet case, was associated with / to (c) the cops gun...


Tell me Mike, is there ONE person on the law enforcement/prosecution/legal team that you believe NOT to have made a royal cock-up?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1706 on: May 27, 2016, 01:38:PM »
That bloke must be in on it too!  ;) ;D

No, don't you dare pull that stroke on here. He wasn't 'in on it too'...

That's where you are wrong. You ain't going to be allowed to 'introduce that stroke here', because he wasn't in on it, as you 'mockingly are trying to suggest'. Your attempt to 'trick' the general public at large will not be allowed to go 'unchallenged' on this forum. Why do you say, 'that he must be in on it', as well? Stop talking 'rubbish'. He didn't have to be in on it, as suggested by you. He was 'used'...

He examined 25 spent cartridge casings which had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, and 'fired', then 'extracted' and 'ejected' from it. But he would conclude that this was true because all 25 bullet casings had been loaded into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, fired and extracted, then ejected from that gun, only 14 of them, did not go through that process until a month or so, 'after' the shootings. What Pryor failed to do, was carry out any sort of examination, confirming that all 25 spent cartridge casings that were subject of his examination, that proved 'an association' between all the casings, and all the bullets. Different ammunition manufacturers use different formula's to prime the rounds they manufacture, and the machines used in the manufacturing process, impose a different set of 'crimping marks' where the bullet and the primed cartridge are fixed together...

Tell you what...

Examination of the 14 bullet casings that are still held at the lab', have an 'intriging' part to play, in 'unravelling' the truth in this matter...

Ask yourself, why did the ballistic expert seek to 'retain' 14 spent bullet casings (MDF/100) that had 'not been fired' via the anshuzt rifle?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1707 on: May 27, 2016, 01:39:PM »

Tell me Mike, is there ONE person on the law enforcement/prosecution/legal team that you believe NOT to have made a royal cock-up?

xxxx xxx, you part...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1708 on: May 27, 2016, 01:41:PM »
xxxx xxx, you part...


Thank-you Mike. I'd like to wish you a very happy Bank Holiday.  :-*
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1709 on: May 27, 2016, 01:42:PM »
Who xxx xxxx do these people think they are?

Get the goddam 14 bullet cases examined, and when its discovered that they were loaded and fired, then ejected from the Bruno rifle, maybe only then will they see sense...
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 01:59:PM by maggie »
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