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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1590 on: May 26, 2016, 11:16:AM »
I found the following black and white image of the bedroom photograph with the clock on June Bambers bedside cabinet, where in the colour version of a similar photograph (it could be the actual photograph), the bodies of Sheila and June have been blacked out for reasons of decency). I am posting this here with the other coloured image to give everybody peace of mind with regard to 'were the bodies there in the colour image, or has it been made to look like bodies were still there'. Rest assured the bodies of Sheila, and June, were present in the colour version, exactly as shown in the black and white one (photo' took at just after 10.20am)...

'The devil is in the detail'...
mike we want to see the photo of sheila lying on the bed.lots of people have asked.but you dont post it 'why'

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1591 on: May 26, 2016, 11:32:AM »
We have also heard, by reference to the testimony of 'Ron' Cook, and 'David Bird, that Cook removed the anshuzt rifle from the body at 11.10am, that morning, and that no-one had touched the rifle prior to that stage. No-one, as it were had checked it to see whether it was still loaded, or even taken measures to make it safe. We know that this cannot possibly be true, because 'that' rifle was photographed leaning against the 'main bedroom window (refer photograph, 23 of negative strip 0012), by PC Bird (SOCO) before he took photographs of it on Sheila's body (refer photographs, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, and 32 of negative strip 0034). There still exists some confusion as to which upstairs window Sheila had 'showed off' the rifle at around 7.15am, a rifle that was seen by both WPC Jeapes, and PC Brown. I will return to that matter shortly, but first please understand that cops only ever found 'one rifle' upstairs during their search that morning. So, if the only rifle that was upstairs had been 'shown off' at any one of the upstairs windows, does it not suggest in the strongest terms imaginable to man or beast, that there was somebody alive, inside the farmhouse at 'that' time (7.15am), and beyond? How utterly remarkable, therefore, that the only rifle found upstairs at the scene just so happens to get photographed in Sheila Caffells possession at around 10.20am...

If 'that' rifle had not been 'shown off' at the main bedroom window, but say another room upstairs, then what that means, is that cops must have brought 'that' rifle from the 'other upstairs room, into the main bedroom, and physically planted it upon Sheila's body. Indeed, during the 'familiars' exercise, cops had brought 'that' rifle to Sheila's body, placed it in her possession in the mistaken belief that she was already dead, and the weapon got discharged firing the so called fatal bullet that lodged in her brain. The rifle was 'then' placed at the main bedroom window where it remained until a short while after PC Bird photographed it there with photograph, 23 of negative 0012. We know or at least we have been told that 'Ron' Cook himself had removed 'that' rifle from Sheila's body at 11.10am, and with the assistance of PI Montgomery, how it had been checked at 'that' stage, made safe, given back to Cook, and how Cook had then replaced it at the main bedroom window. But hang on a minute, PS Woodcock states that 'he had removed the rifle from Sheila's body, that he had checked it and made the weapon safe...

Two different firearm officers, checking the anshuzt rifle, and making it safe after 'it' had been removed from Sheila's body, with only one of these two named officers being named by 'Ron' Cook as having done so in his presence. Now, 'Ron' Cook did not arrive at the scene until 9.20am, by which stage the rifle had already been brought from an upstairs window onto Sheila's body, and discharged killing her with certainty. Once the shot had been fired, it is understood that PS Woodcock removed the rifle at that stage, checked it, and made it safe, before placing it at the main bedroom window, where it remained until just before 10.20am, when 'somebody' brought it from the bedroom window 'after' PC Bird had captured its presence there in photograph, 23 of negative strip 0012, and proceeded to place 'it' into Sheila's possession so that PC Bird (SOCO) could get 'the position of the gun right on the body' - that's what 'Ron' Cook told PC Bird, when he had allowed PC Bird into the farmhouse for the very first time. He had said to PC Bird, 'make sure you get the position of the rifle right on the body'...

How utterly amazing, that Cook should admit 'that' to PC Bird (SOCO), 'make sure you get the position of the rifle right on the body'...

Cook told PC Bird that because Cook knew by 'that' stage the anshuzt rifle was not with the body. That rifle was leaning against the main bedroom window,  where PS Woodcock had placed it soon after 9.13am, when it had discharged a round under Sheila's chin...
« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 11:54:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1592 on: May 26, 2016, 11:52:AM »
john when i mentioned the above to david he replyed the 22.bullets used had bees wax on them  not oil or lead.which i find strange
The Eley Rimmington .22 rim fired ammo used for the shooting was wax coated sami.  The wax is believed to make the shots more accurate..

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1593 on: May 26, 2016, 11:59:AM »
The Eley Rimmington .22 rim fired ammo used for the shooting was wax coated sami.  The wax is believed to make the shots more accurate..
thank you maggie ,i wasnt sure. appoliges to david ;)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1594 on: May 26, 2016, 12:12:PM »
mike we want to see the photo of sheila lying on the bed.lots of people have asked.but you dont post it 'why'

Yes, I am sure you do, and what is more, no doubt its 'existence' will be forming part of Jeremy's forthcoming appeal.  What I can tell you all is that 'Sheila's body was captured in the crime scene video footage on the bed' and ' the moment cops moved her body to the bedroom floor' was also recorded, including the 'bringing of the anshuzt rifle to her body at 'that' stage, and the audible sound when the rifle in question discharged the fatal shot beneath her chin. 'Informatives', that was when cops killed Sheila. They don't want to talk about it. They have denied that video footage of that incident even exists, but the CCRC have it. If these bad apple cops had got nothing to hide they would have 'fessed up' 30 years ago. The CCRC had every reason for Jeremy not to be able to see those images captured in that footage, because bad apple cops were arranging Sheila's body and clothing in provocative positions for their own morbid sexual pleasures. Her body (former model) was a prize to them. Jeremy Bamber did not shoot his sister dead on the bedroom floor, or stage his sisters body with the anshuzt rifle from the window. She was killed during the aforementioned exercise. They moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor because top dog cop, 'Taff' Jones had just arrived at the scene, and the bad apple cops who abused Sheila's corpse, did not want top dog cop to see what they had been getting up to. They even abused Ralph Bambers body (Chairman of Witham Bench) by yanking down his pyjama bottoms and filmed him as though that had been how his body had been found. No wonder the CCRC wouldn't let Jeremy see the images contained in that footage...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1595 on: May 26, 2016, 01:31:PM »
The Eley Rimmington .22 rim fired ammo used for the shooting was wax coated sami.  The wax is believed to make the shots more accurate..
maggie would she not have wax on her hands.wax is similar to oil .it leaves a coating on the hands

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1596 on: May 26, 2016, 01:50:PM »
maggie would she not have wax on her hands.wax is similar to oil .it leaves a coating on the hands

Yes it does, I have some bees wax candles and it's quite soft.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1597 on: May 26, 2016, 01:57:PM »
Yes, I am sure you do, and what is more, no doubt its 'existence' will be forming part of Jeremy's forthcoming appeal.  What I can tell you all is that 'Sheila's body was captured in the crime scene video footage on the bed' and ' the moment cops moved her body to the bedroom floor' was also recorded, including the 'bringing of the anshuzt rifle to her body at 'that' stage, and the audible sound when the rifle in question discharged the fatal shot beneath her chin. 'Informatives', that was when cops killed Sheila. They don't want to talk about it. They have denied that video footage of that incident even exists, but the CCRC have it. If these bad apple cops had got nothing to hide they would have 'fessed up' 30 years ago. The CCRC had every reason for Jeremy not to be able to see those images captured in that footage, because bad apple cops were arranging Sheila's body and clothing in provocative positions for their own morbid sexual pleasures. Her body (former model) was a prize to them. Jeremy Bamber did not shoot his sister dead on the bedroom floor, or stage his sisters body with the anshuzt rifle from the window. She was killed during the aforementioned exercise. They moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor because top dog cop, 'Taff' Jones had just arrived at the scene, and the bad apple cops who abused Sheila's corpse, did not want top dog cop to see what they had been getting up to. They even abused Ralph Bambers body (Chairman of Witham Bench) by yanking down his pyjama bottoms and filmed him as though that had been how his body had been found. No wonder the CCRC wouldn't let Jeremy see the images contained in that footage...
mike that might just free him if the ccrc have got it

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1598 on: May 26, 2016, 02:01:PM »
i must add i cant believe police would be playing around with a loaded rifle or doing any placing with it .imo

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1599 on: May 26, 2016, 02:18:PM »
mike that might just free him if the ccrc have got it

Yes, they have...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1600 on: May 26, 2016, 02:23:PM »
Yes, they have...
in that case youve got em mike

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1601 on: May 26, 2016, 02:50:PM »
i must add i cant believe police would be playing around with a loaded rifle or doing any placing with it .imo

You don't believe cops would be playing around with a loaded rifle? How about 'they didn't realise it was a loaded weapon'?

Ok, lets approach the subject from a different angle...

Cops enter farmhouse at just after 7.30am, rifle has been put 'on show' at an upstairs window (I could argue which one, but what is the point, it matters not which upstairs window the rifle is 'shown at', all that matters is that 'it' was shown by somebody who was alive inside the farmhouse at 7.15am). Rifle (not a shotgun) is 'presented at the window' as a 'gesture of goodwill', a signal to the cops that the perpetrator was ready to capitulate, and more importantly allow access to the farmhouse of the ambulance crews to tend to the injured. Now, no sooner does somebody who must be alive by that stage 'show the rifle' at an upstairs window, than armed cops start to approach the farmhouse, not the ambulance or its crew...

Are you with me, thus far?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1602 on: May 26, 2016, 02:58:PM »
Cops 'betrayed' the trust they had negotiated, and tried to trick their way into the farmhouse, demonstrating that they cared very little, if anything at all, for any victim who was injured inside that farmhouse...

There was only one reason why armed cops 'betrayed' the negotiated truce, and it was not with trying to protect life, it can't have been, otherwise they would have 'sent in the ambulance which had been requested, with its crew to tend to the needy'. No, armed cops had only one thing in their minds, they were going to teach the 'goddam bitch' inside that farmhouse, that if you fuck with armed cops, you had better be prepared for a war'...

That's the way I see it...

I see it that way because despite what you might think, bad apple cops tell lies all of the time. Especially, a bad apple cop in possession of a loaded firearm...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1603 on: May 26, 2016, 03:06:PM »
You don't believe cops would be playing around with a loaded rifle? How about 'they didn't realise it was a loaded weapon'?

Ok, lets approach the subject from a different angle...

Cops enter farmhouse at just after 7.30am, rifle has been put 'on show' at an upstairs window (I could argue which one, but what is the point, it matters not which upstairs window the rifle is 'shown at', all that matters is that 'it' was shown by somebody who was alive inside the farmhouse at 7.15am). Rifle (not a shotgun) is 'presented at the window' as a 'gesture of goodwill', a signal to the cops that the perpetrator was ready to capitulate, and more importantly allow access to the farmhouse of the ambulance crews to tend to the injured. Now, no sooner does somebody who must be alive by that stage 'show the rifle' at an upstairs window, than armed cops start to approach the farmhouse, not the ambulance or its crew...

Are you with me, thus far?
i see what you mean

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1604 on: May 26, 2016, 03:10:PM »
Cops 'betrayed' the trust they had negotiated, and tried to trick their way into the farmhouse, demonstrating that they cared very little, if anything at all, for any victim who was injured inside that farmhouse...

There was only one reason why armed cops 'betrayed' the negotiated truce, and it was not with trying to protect life, it can't have been, otherwise they would have 'sent in the ambulance which had been requested, with its crew to tend to the needy'. No, armed cops had only one thing in their minds, they were going to teach the 'goddam bitch' inside that farmhouse, that if you fuck with armed cops, you had better be prepared for a war'...

That's the way I see it...

I see it that way because despite what you might think, bad apple cops tell lies all of the time. Especially, a bad apple cop in possession of a loaded firearm...
murdering bastards