What makes Bamber innocent?

[Jane]

You know the incident I am now referring too, when Jimmy Bell threw a handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and shouted at him, 'THE NEXT TIME THEY WILL BE FROM A GUN', or words to that effect. Are you pretending you never heard about 'that' threat?

I know WAY more about Jimmy Bell than you ever will but because of my close connection to his family -I've been with one of his sons today-  I'm not prepared to discuss this with you. You may rest assured I fully cognisant with the precautions the police put in place to protect those who needed protecting. The Bambers didn't come anywhere close. Magistrates receive threats. It's par for the course.

[mike tesko]

I know WAY more about Jimmy Bell than you ever will but because of my close connection to his family -I've been with one of his sons today-  I'm not prepared to discuss this with you. You may rest assured I fully cognisant with the precautions the police put in place to protect those who needed protecting. The Bambers didn't come anywhere close. Magistrates receive threats. It's par for the course.

Funny then, why Ralph Bamber was not practising his duties as a magistrate in the months leading up to his death, and that he should pass comments about having to keep his eye on 'those two' with the shooting season coming up...

Which two?

Jeremy is only one person...

[mike tesko]

Which two?

Robert Boutflour, and David Boutflour?

Anthony Pargeter, and Peter Eaton?

Robert Boutflour, and Peter Eaton?

David Boutflour, and Anthony Pargeter?

Anthony Pargeter, and Robert Boutflour?

[Jane]

Funny then, why Ralph Bamber was not practising his duties as a magistrate in the months leading up to his death, and that he should pass comments about having to keep his eye on 'those two' with the shooting season coming up...

Which two?

Jeremy is only one person...

Well, according to the date on the letter you posted, he hadn't been "practising his duties as a magistrate" for YEARS.

[mike tesko]

It is very satisfying knowing that at long last the truth is out about how the rifle at 'the' window (7.15am) photograph, 23 of negative strip 0012, ended up on Sheila's body in 8 photographs that were taken at around 10.20am ( 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 of negative strip 0034). Now, nobody can say that Jeremy placed 'that' rifle on his sisters body after he had supposedly killed her on the bedroom floor, and that cops have the photographs to prove it. They don't have any photographs to prove it. The photographs they took only prove that 'they' (the cops) placed the rifle on Sheila's body and that cops then took photographs...

[mike tesko]

It is very satisfying knowing that at long last the truth is out about how the rifle at 'the' window (7.15am) photograph, 23 of negative strip 0012, ended up on Sheila's body in 8 photographs that were taken at around 10.20am ( 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 of negative strip 0034). Now, nobody can say that Jeremy placed 'that' rifle on his sisters body after he had supposedly killed her on the bedroom floor, and that cops have the photographs to prove it. They don't have any photographs to prove it. The photographs they took only prove that 'they' (the cops) placed the rifle on Sheila's body and that cops then took photographs...

Had the jury known this it would almost certainly have impacted adversely upon the claims made by the Prosecution, who were blaming Jeremy for 'everything'. It was Jeremy's fault that his dad called him, it was his fault that he tried to call the cops at Witham, it was his fault he didn't dial 999, it was his fault that he called his girlfriend before he called cops at Chelmsford, it was his fault that he didn't drive fast enough to get to the scene despite being told by cops not to approach house until cops who were being despatched from Chelmsford got there, it was his fault PC Myall saw the unidentified male at the bedroom window, it was his fault that cops decided it was a siege, it was his fault lights were being switched on and off in different rooms of the house at different times, it was his fault, the phone mysteriously became engaged whilst the operator was checking the telephone line, it was his fault three ambulances were summoned to the scene at around 6am, one to go directly to the house, the other two on standby in pages lane, it was his fault cops reported two dead bodies in the kitchen, upon entry at 7.37am, and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am. It was  all Jeremy's fault, everything that went wrong for the cops they blamed it all on poor Jeremy. God knows how they came to the conclusion that Jeremy had almost got away with committing the perfect murders, because they blame him for so much it beggars belief that anybody who got blamed for so much mischief stood any chance whatsoever of getting away with anything...

It wasn't Jeremy who staged his sisters death scene on the bedroom floor with the rifle from the bedroom window...

I agree though, that 'whoever' staged her body, did have something to do with 'killing Sheila Caffell...

[lookout]

It has to make you think Mike as she'd have been like a mad woman,threatening, and police will open fire against a threat of someone who's armed.

[mike tesko]

'If' (ha, ha, ha) cops shot and killed Sheila Caffell they would have admitted to it, of course they would, cops don't lie do they? Cops don't fabricate evidence, do they? Cops don't doctor photographic records, do they? Cops don't alter witness statements, do they? Cops don't re-write their notes in dodgy notebooks do they? Cops don't tamper with bodies at a crime scene, do they? Cops don't 'plant guns on bodies of dead victims, and then take photographs, do they? Cops then don't deceive courts by claiming that the photographs they took showed how they found the body, untouched, do they? Nah, not cops, why on earth would anybody think cops had all this evil inside themselves?

[mike tesko]

Right, next up, 'the trial transcript of the ballistic expert', 'Malcolm Fletcher'...

It will be time consuming, so bear with me, and I think a few pages are missing (I haven't removed them), and in some of the other transcripts in my possession, somebody has cut out sections, which has infuriated me during the past two and a half decades (I didn't cut things out). Also, some of the pages are duplicated, so I might have to delete them where this occurs (again, not my doing)...

[mike tesko]

It has to make you think Mike as she'd have been like a mad woman,threatening, and police will open fire against a threat of someone who's armed.

Hi Lookout, I see the point you are making, but Sheila wasn't armed when she got shot downstairs in the kitchen, she had co-operated with the request from cops to show the gun at one of the windows as a gesture of goodwill, so that ambulance crews could enter the farmhouse to tend to the wounded. But cops tricked her, they didn't send the ambulance directly to the house once Sheila had put the gun on show, armed cops came to the house instead, they hammered in the door that Sheila was on her way downstairs to open, and when PS Woodcocks' weapon in the form of the barrel of his rifle came around the edge of the inner kitchen door, it incensed her because she thought cops were going to kill her. She grabbed the barrel, there was a desperate struggle involving Woodcock trying to get around the edge of the door to fix the muzzle of his weapon onto the 'target' (Sheila Caffell), she got shot, and Woodcock would claim in his report (shooting incident in the kitchen) that Sheila deliberately pulled the muzzle of his weapon into her own throat as if she 'wanted' to die. This is the reason why her death in the kitchen was described as 'a suicide', before 7.45am...

[sami]

Well, according to the date on the letter you posted, he hadn't been "practising his duties as a magistrate" for YEARS.

well observed jane

[mike tesko]

well observed jane

Ask her on what date, Jimmy Bell, threw the handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and threatened him with, 'next time they will be fired from a gun'...

[mike tesko]

Ask her on what date, Jimmy Bell, threw the handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and threatened him with, 'next time they will be fired from a gun'...

Ask her 'how many weeks before Ralph, and three generations of the family, were all killed', did Jimmy make 'that' threat?

[Jane]

Ask her on what date, Jimmy Bell, threw the handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and threatened him with, 'next time they will be fired from a gun'...

You're splitting hairs. Nevill was allegedly on a few months "sick" leave from the bench in 1985. Yet the letter asking for the time off -a few months- was dated 1981. I believe Jimmy's trial was heard a Chelmsford Crown court.

[Jane]

Ask her on what date, Jimmy Bell, threw the handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and threatened him with, 'next time they will be fired from a gun'...

It's of no relevance what Jimmy threw where. You've already blamed Ralph Nevill'/the police en masse/ the hunch back man as culprits of the crime.