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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1290 on: May 21, 2016, 11:14:PM »
which cops and in trouble with who

I will leave you to try and work that out all by yourself...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1291 on: May 21, 2016, 11:16:PM »
At the bottom of the picture Mike, there is what looks like underlay, are you  sure this wasn't taken after they removed the carpets?  ;D Does anyone else think it looks like underlay?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1292 on: May 21, 2016, 11:20:PM »
At the bottom of the picture Mike, there is what looks like underlay, are you  sure this wasn't taken after they removed the carpets?  ;D Does anyone else think it looks like underlay?
yes that certainly looks like underlay

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1293 on: May 21, 2016, 11:22:PM »
I will leave you to try and work that out all by yourself...
got too tough for you.because theres no answer

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1294 on: May 21, 2016, 11:28:PM »
You may have failed to notice, Mike, but I would NEVER lower myself to using corrupt language. It matters little what time the clock say. It is perfectly reasonable to accept that the police removed said rifle FROM Sheila to make it safe, leaned it against the window, took pictures and returned it to where they'd originally found it. It makes far more sense that what you're saying. The more convoluted the tale -as with yours- the less likely it is to be true.

This is what let's you down, by declaring that it doesn't matter what time the clock says, or that it doesn't matter if cops removed the rifle from Sheila's body, took the photo (23) of the rifle against the window, then placed the rifle back on Sheila's body, before PC Bird took photo's 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32, showing the rifle back on her body? Of course it matters. It matters because cops said that nobody touched Sheila's body, or the gun (with the exception of Cook, who moved Sheila's hand, so that PC Bird could photograph bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress), until after the body with the rifle in her possession, had all been taken. It matters because the jury were given these key photographs when they retired to reach a verdict, and they were told that Sheila's body had been staged exactly as her body with the rifle is depicted in these photographs, staged so as to fool the cops into thinking that Sheila had taken her own life, when all along it was just a charade, a mocked up death scene created by the cops themselves, I suppose one could now say now that we know with absolute certainty that cops staged Sheila's death scene, that it wasn't Jeremy after all who fooled the cops, it was the cops who as things stand fooled themselves into staging Sheila's death as a suicide...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1295 on: May 21, 2016, 11:32:PM »
This is what let's you down, by declaring that it doesn't matter what time the clock says, or that it doesn't matter if cops removed the rifle from Sheila's body, took the photo (23) of the rifle against the window, then placed the rifle back on Sheila's body, before PC Bird took photo's 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32, showing the rifle back on her body? Of course it matters. It matters because cops said that nobody touched Sheila's body, or the gun (with the exception of Cook, who moved Sheila's hand, so that PC Bird could photograph bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress), until after the body with the rifle in her possession, had all been taken. It matters because the jury were given these key photographs when they retired to reach a verdict, and they were told that Sheila's body had been staged exactly as her body with the rifle is depicted in these photographs, staged so as to fool the cops into thinking that Sheila had taken her own life, when all along it was just a charade, a mocked up death scene created by the cops themselves, I suppose one could now say now that we know with absolute certainty that cops staged Sheila's death scene, that it wasn't Jeremy after all who fooled the cops, it was the cops who as things stand fooled themselves into staging Sheila's death as a suicide...
would the raid team not move and check any weapon  found near a body.i think its beyond doubt they would and did in this case will have to go through raid team statements to see who did

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1296 on: May 21, 2016, 11:38:PM »
so they never touched her to see if she was alive yet they left the murder weapon by her.so if she wasnt dead she could reach the rifle and shoot them.RUBBISH.armed officers are highly trained and will allways check and make safe any weapons found near a body wether its dead or alive.common sense
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1297 on: May 21, 2016, 11:49:PM »
would the raid team not move and check any weapon  found near a body.i think its beyond doubt they would and did in this case will have to go through raid team statements to see who did

Cops didn't touch or move bodies, or the gun as suggested by you, or so they claimed. With the exception of Cook who moved Sheila's hand so that his side kick PC Bird could take a photograph of bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, for example here...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1298 on: May 21, 2016, 11:59:PM »
Cops didn't touch or move bodies, or the gun as suggested by you, or so they claimed. With the exception of Cook who moved Sheila's hand so that his side kick PC Bird could take a photograph of bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, for example here...
ok so they didnt touch sc or the rifle so what does it prove

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1299 on: May 22, 2016, 12:08:AM »
Cook testified that with the exception of him moving Sheila's hand, that nobody moved or touched any of the bodies, or the gun until after PC Bird had taken all his photographs in a particular subject. Cook stated that the rifle was not removed and made safe until 11.10am, that same date, when he himself removed the rifle and handed it to the firearm officers present to make it safe. When questioned about photograph number 23, Cook blurted out that that photograph was taken after the rifle had been removed from Sheila's body at 11.10am, and once the rifle had been made safe, how he himself had placed the rifle there at the window. Nobody was in a position to challenge what Cook said about this during the trial because cops had created a false photographic record, in the form of the so called 'master copy album' containing 223 photographs. It was a lie, there existed another album with far more photographs contained within it (581 in total) known as 'The senior investigating officers album'. This fact did not come to light until after the 2002 appeal. It was only from that point that it could be proven that photograph 23 which shows the anshuzt rifle against the bedroom window was taken before the other photographs which show the same rifle upon Sheila's body as per photographs 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, and 32...

Cops staged Sheila Caffells death scene wpin the bedroom in possession of the anshuzt rifle without any prompting by Jeremy or anybody else

Now, ask yourselves a question, why did cops feel the need to have to do that?

Next question, Once it became clear that relatives were poking their noses into the alleged circumstances of the shootings, why did cops feel it necessary to pin the blame for them treating the killings as four murders and a suicide, onto Jeremy?

When you find the answers to these questions it will suddenly dawn on you, that Jeremy had 'not' killed his sister, and he had not staged her death on his parents bedroom floor to make her death seem like a suicide...

But, Cops had, and did...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1300 on: May 22, 2016, 12:15:AM »
Cook testified that with the exception of him moving Sheila's hand, that nobody moved or touched any of the bodies, or the gun until after PC Bird had taken all his photographs in a particular subject. Cook stated that the rifle was not removed and made safe until 11.10am, that same date, when he himself removed the rifle and handed it to the firearm officers present to make it safe. When questioned about photograph number 23, Cook blurted out that that photograph was taken after the rifle had been removed from Sheila's body at 11.10am, and once the rifle had been made safe, how he himself had placed the rifle there at the window. Nobody was in a position to challenge what Cook said about this during the trial because cops had created a false photographic record, in the form of the so called 'master copy album' containing 223 photographs. It was a lie, there existed another album with far more photographs contained within it (581 in total) known as 'The senior investigating officers album'. This fact did not come to light until after the 2002 appeal. It was only from that point that it could be proven that photograph 23 which shows the anshuzt rifle against the bedroom window was taken before the other photographs which show the same rifle upon Sheila's body as per photographs 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, and 32...

Cops staged Sheila Caffells death scene wpin the bedroom in possession of the anshuzt rifle without any prompting by Jeremy or anybody else

Now, ask yourselves a question, why did cops feel the need to have to do that?

Next question, Once it became clear that relatives were poking their noses into the alleged circumstances of the shootings, why did cops feel it necessary to pin the blame for them treating the killings as four murders and a suicide, onto Jeremy?

When you find the answers to these questions it will suddenly dawn on you, that Jeremy had 'not' killed his sister, and he had not staged her death on his parents bedroom floor to make her death seem like a suicide...

But, Cops had, and did...
he probaly got the time mixed up it can happen

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1301 on: May 22, 2016, 12:30:AM »
he probaly got the time mixed up it can happen

Got the times mixed up conveniently, so that at trial the defence had no way of knowing or proving that Jeremy had not staged his sisters body to make it appear as though she had committed suicide, and that the cops had...

That would have caused the case to collapse because cops would be exposed as having tampered with victims bodies at the crime scene, and creating a fraudulent photographic record to help cover up what they had been responsible for doing...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1302 on: May 22, 2016, 04:25:AM »
J is the victim of a 'miscarriage of justice', I can see why, and how he got convicted, unless you have been a ''victim' of a miscarriage of justice, yourself, I suppose it is difficult to image that 'The State', and its witnesses, could 'lie', but they do, in 'certain circumstances'. I know, because on several 'different occasions' I have been the 'victim' of such tactics 'myself'...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1303 on: May 22, 2016, 04:34:AM »
Mike, you know everything, and I mean everything about this case, you have thought about it from every possible angle. why do you lie?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1304 on: May 22, 2016, 07:29:AM »
This evidence that I am talking about and which I have drawn your attention to is a compelling reason / grounds that 'will' lead to the quashing of Jeremy Bambers convictions. This is because, it can now be proven by reference to two crime scene photographs taken by PC Bird, that the anshuzt rifle was photographed resting against the bedroom window (23), before the rifle was brought by the cops from the window, and placed on Sheila Caffells body, (photo's 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32) and her death scene staged by 10.20am, or thereabouts, to make it appear as though Sheila had shot herself twice with 'that' rifle. But the truth of the matter was that she was only shot 'once' by use of 'that' gun upstairs in the bedroom. I will leave it to you to try to fathom out which gun was used to shoot her downstairs in the kitchen with the anshuzt rifle still resting at the window upstairs by the time cops reported a dead female downstairs in the kitchen from 7.37am, onward...


That you put "WILL" in inverts rather suggests........................it WON'T.
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