What makes Bamber innocent?

[sami]

I don't have to make anything up, its what did happen. Its all documented...

WHERE

[Jane]

I don't have to make anything up, its what did happen. Its all documented...

Yes, and I can play all the notes in a piece of music but like you, I don't play/say them in the order they're written.

[mike tesko]

if they are not released how do you know what they contain.and how do you know ep hasnt destroyed them

Because I have been told by retired cops who were involved at the scene...

Why was it, do you think, that after 5.25am, that morning when firearm officers were engaged in a 'conversation' with a person from inside the farmhouse, that three ambulances were summoned to the scene, arriving at around 7am, with instructions for only one of these ambulances to go directly to the house, whilst the other two ambulances were parked up in Pages lane close to the farm cottages to await further instruction? Cops knew by around 6am that somebody had been shot, hence why one of the three ambulances was directed to go straight to the farmhouse? Cops had been communicating with Sheila, and she was all messed up and couldn't speak coherently, at times she was screaming, moaning, crying, laughing, howling and mimicking the dog barking. However, it was whilst communication of this sort  was ongoing that they coaxed her into placing the rifle believed to be in her possession at one of the windows...

[sami]

Because I have been told by retired cops who were involved at the scene...

Why was it, do you think, that after 5.25am, that morning when firearm officers were engaged in a 'conversation' with a person from inside the farmhouse, that three ambulances were summoned to the scene, arriving at around 7am, with instructions for only one of these ambulances to go directly to the house, whilst the other two ambulances were parked up in Pages lane close to the farm cottages to await further instruction? Cops knew by around 6am that somebody had been shot, hence why one of the three ambulances was directed to go straight to the farmhouse? Cops had been communicating with Sheila, and she was all messed up and couldn't speak coherently, at times she was screaming, moaning, crying, laughing, howling and mimicking the dog barking. However, it was whilst communication of this sort  was ongoing that they coaxed her into placing the rifle believed to be in her possession at one of the windows...

which retired  officers and will they be willing to repeat it in a court of law.other wise its hearsay or lies

[Jane]

Because I have been told by retired cops who were involved at the scene...

Why was it, do you think, that after 5.25am, that morning when firearm officers were engaged in a 'conversation' with a person from inside the farmhouse, that three ambulances were summoned to the scene, arriving at around 7am, with instructions for only one of these ambulances to go directly to the house, whilst the other two ambulances were parked up in Pages lane close to the farm cottages to await further instruction? Cops knew by around 6am that somebody had been shot, hence why one of the three ambulances was directed to go straight to the farmhouse? Cops had been communicating with Sheila, and she was all messed up and couldn't speak coherently, at times she was screaming, moaning, crying, laughing, howling and mimicking the dog barking. However, it was whilst communication of this sort  was ongoing that they coaxed her into placing the rifle believed to be in her possession at one of the windows...

I feel inclined to say they're pulling your leg, Mike. If it WAS true, by now it would have reached far more influential ears than yours. Who knows, it could be that all those connected with WHF would disappear one by one.

[mike tesko]

Cops have lied in the handling of this investigation...

The rifle from the window was placed onto Sheila's body by cops. It was not photographed on her body until around 10.20am, that morning, whilst SOCO supposedly had control of the scene.

[Jane]

Cops have lied in the handling of this investigation...

The rifle from the window was placed onto Sheila's body by cops. It was not photographed on her body until around 10.20am, that morning, whilst SOCO supposedly had control of the scene.

But you omit to say they first took it off to make it safe and leaned it against a wall/window to take pictures before replacing it.

[sami]

Cops have lied in the handling of this investigation...

The rifle from the window was placed onto Sheila's body by cops. It was not photographed on her body until around 10.20am, that morning, whilst SOCO supposedly had control of the scene.
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[Caroline]

Cops have lied in the handling of this investigation...

The rifle from the window was placed onto Sheila's body by cops. It was not photographed on her body until around 10.20am, that morning, whilst SOCO supposedly had control of the scene.
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The clock on the bedside table.

[sami]

The clock on the bedside table.

thank you caroline.ive asked if the retired officers will stand in court of law and repeat what they have told mike .but no reply to this question.what has this image got to do with things

[sami]

mike youre anti police why would retired police officers tell you such things

[mike tesko]

The following sequence of events occurred:-

07.15am - Sheila placed rifle at window, as a signal that she was prepared to give herself up, and allow ambulance crew members into farmhouse to provide immediate care to a victim or victims who had been shot by that stage...

7.37am - Cop shot an unarmed Sheila in kitchen, and mistakenly presumed her to have been killed (rifle still at upstairs window)

7.38am -  two bodies downstairs, a dead male, a dead female, a murder, a suicide (rifle still at upstairs window)

8.10am - the other three bodies were located upstairs, five dead in total (rifle still at window)

8.44am - police surgeon, Dr Craig, PI Miller, view Sheila's body on far side of the bed in the main bedroom, sporting a single gunshot wound by that stage. Craig pronounces Sheila dead (rifle still at window)

9.13am - Sheila's body removed from bed and placed on bedroom floor. The rifle is brought from window and placed onto Sheila's body for gauging purposes. Whilst her fingers are being manipulated upon and around the trigger mechanism, and muzzle of rifles barrel beneath victims chin, the weapon discharged a shot which penetrated into Sheila's brain, and killed her instantly. Rifle was immediately removed and placed at the bedroom window...

10am - PC Bird photographed the anshuzt rifle against the bedroom window as per photograph number 23 (master copy album)

10.20am - rifle brought from bedroom window and placed onto Sheila's body by cops who tried to make it appear that she had taken her own life with use of 'that' gun...

[mike tesko]

mike youre anti police why would retired police officers tell you such things

I have a relative who was a police dog handler, are you suggesting that because I distrust the police that my uncle (the ex cop) never confided in me at all?

[Caroline]

thank you caroline.ive asked if the retired officers will stand in court of law and repeat what they have told mike .but no reply to this question.what has this image got to do with things

It shows the time as 10:20 - other than that? Beats me 

[mike tesko]

But you omit to say they first took it off to make it safe and leaned it against a wall/window to take pictures before replacing it.

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