What makes Bamber innocent?

[Caroline]

I'm no more interested in the views of book authors than I am Mike's views. 

So bottom line is there's no documentary evidence by way of witness statements and trial transciprts confirming the 'trick of the light'?

Tell you what Jackie, you MAKE UP your own version of events and the rest of us will stick to the FACTS. Of course there is documented evidence of Bews mentioning the trick of light. People can't lie about it because it will be in the court transcripts but you carry on pretending it's not there. Perhaps NGB will confirm that it was mentioned in court?

[JackiePreece]

the fantasy you are living there was no one at any window and you and fellow supporters cannot prove there was .movement at the window disappearing rifle from window .all pure fantasy

Jeremy never made reference to someone, movement or trick of the light in his witness statements or police interviews. 

I've had a look through all the documents here relating to Bews and Myalls and I can't find anything about someone, movement or trick of the light at the window.  Myalls trial transcript refers to whether or not windows were open, lights on, curtains open.   

Why did Bews bring  it up nearly a quarter of a century later in an audio recording with the Guardian newspaper?

[JackiePreece]

Tell you what Jackie, you MAKE UP your own version of events and the rest of us will stick to the FACTS. Of course there is documented evidence of Bews mentioning the trick of light. People can't lie about it because it will be in the court transcripts but you carry on pretending it's not there. Perhaps NGB will confirm that it was mentioned in court?

Does NGB have access to documents that aren't here then?

Where is the documented evidence you refer to?

[JackiePreece]

FAO NGB

Are you able to provide further evidence of the 'trick of light'

Thank you NGB, Jackie x 

[sami]

I'm not remotely interested in Mike's crazy views on the case.  I am interested in evidence.

Bews is on record saying Myalls saw someone at the bedroom window.  I've provided the audio what more evidence do you want?

mike will be over the moon when he reads his views are regarded as crazy

[sami]

Jeremy never made reference to someone, movement or trick of the light in his witness statements or police interviews. 

I've had a look through all the documents here relating to Bews and Myalls and I can't find anything about someone, movement or trick of the light at the window.  Myalls trial transcript refers to whether or not windows were open, lights on, curtains open.   

Why did Bews bring  it up nearly a quarter of a century later in an audio recording with the Guardian newspaper?

you will have to find him and ask him why mention it now.no one on here has the answer

[Reader]

. . . as they looked in the direction of the window in question, every now and then he could see the silhouette of the person's head, bobbing out into view from the right hand edge of the window, then darting back in again, out of sight for a few seconds. . . . the person at the right-hand edge of the window suddenly moved very fast across the opening of the window...

How come you've never posted these details of Jeremy's description before, especially the final very fast movement?

[sami]

How come you've never posted these details of Jeremy's description before, especially the final very fast movement?

also why was it a silhouette was there not a light on in that room.you said earlier jb told you it was a male figure how could jb tell if it was a silhouette

[ngb1066]

Tell you what Jackie, you MAKE UP your own version of events and the rest of us will stick to the FACTS. Of course there is documented evidence of Bews mentioning the trick of light. People can't lie about it because it will be in the court transcripts but you carry on pretending it's not there. Perhaps NGB will confirm that it was mentioned in court?

It was mentioned in court at trial.  Rivlin briefly touched upon it in cross examination of one of the police officers.  Strangely in my view he sought to downplay it, supporting the assertion that it was a mere trick of the light and not seeking to explore any other possibility.  I have never understood the reason for that.  Even the possibility that someone might have been alive in the house at that time would have been enough to secure an acquittal.

[ngb1066]

Does NGB have access to documents that aren't here then?

Where is the documented evidence you refer to?

I think there is some section of the transcript relating to this posted here, but I may be wrong about that.  I certainly recall seeing it somewhere as it struck me as odd the way in which Geoffrey Rivlin dealt with the issue.  I suppose I might have seen it in documents provided to me when I was involved in the case, but I do not think so.

[ngb1066]

FAO NGB

Are you able to provide further evidence of the 'trick of light'

Thank you NGB, Jackie x 

Apart from what I have posted in response to the two earlier posts, it is something I discussed with Jeremy a while back.  He recalled Bews taking the sighting very seriously.  This again is a reason I am surprised at how the defence failed to use this to their advantage at trial.  Rivlin may have had good reasons for the course he took, but I have no idea what that reason might be.

[Caroline]

It was mentioned in court at trial.  Rivlin briefly touched upon it in cross examination of one of the police officers.  Strangely in my view he sought to downplay it, supporting the assertion that it was a mere trick of the light and not seeking to explore any other possibility.  I have never understood the reason for that.  Even the possibility that someone might have been alive in the house at that time would have been enough to secure an acquittal.

Thanks NGB.

[Caroline]

Does NGB have access to documents that aren't here then?

Where is the documented evidence you refer to?

Everyone knows it was mentioned at trial - anyone who has bothered to read up on the case. I've have already told you where it is documented, IN THE TRAIL TRANSCRIPTS! 

[sami]

It was mentioned in court at trial.  Rivlin briefly touched upon it in cross examination of one of the police officers.  Strangely in my view he sought to downplay it, supporting the assertion that it was a mere trick of the light and not seeking to explore any other possibility.  I have never understood the reason for that.  Even the possibility that someone might have been alive in the house at that time would have been enough to secure an acquittal.

thank you ngb

[mike tesko]

how did he leave whf i doubt if jb had told him about the self latching window and why would he lock up before leaving.just common sense

Jeremy described 'Ralph Neville' as a distant relative - but he didn't make it absolutely clear in what way he was related. I was left with the impression that he was related to Ralph Bamber...