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Offline sami

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1005 on: May 19, 2016, 07:02:PM »
if pc myall saw someone leaving he would have chased him and apprehended him he knew back up was on its way

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1006 on: May 19, 2016, 07:08:PM »
if pc myall saw someone leaving he would have chased him and apprehended him he knew back up was on its way


Let's look at the scenario. There's a siege situation in which an allegedly insane female is running around with a gun when all of a sudden an "uniden...............you know the rest" THEN is seen "leaving from ect..." and they let him walk past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! J, M & J have you ever heard such RUBBISH?????

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1007 on: May 19, 2016, 07:12:PM »

Let's look at the scenario. There's a siege situation in which an allegedly insane female is running around with a gun when all of a sudden an "uniden...............you know the rest" THEN is seen "leaving from ect..." and they let him walk past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! J, M & J have you ever heard such RUBBISH?????
thats the correct word for that theory jane laughable and childish could also be used

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1008 on: May 19, 2016, 07:18:PM »
jb said that his father had phoned him and said shelia had gone mad and had hold of a gun.so  the theory of a male in the bedroom window is stone dead.common sense

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1009 on: May 19, 2016, 07:31:PM »


Good point, Sami. I think this is Jeremy pointing every finger away from his own part in this dreadful crime. no, it isn't. Jeremy didn't bring up Ralph Neville's possible involvement in these shootings, I did...First of all he gives police a rather warped CV of Sheila's mental health Sheila's psychiatrist, Professor Ferguson, already had the details of Sheila's deteriorating mental health condition written up in his files, years before the shootings, or whatever. Jeremy did not tell cops anything they might not find out from her psychiatrist or her docter... and her competency with firearms, Well, according to Pamela Boutflour, her sister mentioned to her that J might have been teaching Sheila how to load bullets into the rifle, and shoot it. We have also heard from several different sources that you wouldn't need to be a competent marksman to load and fire that type of rifle at close quarters. Indeed, on you tube kids can be found to be doing that which Sheila supposedly could not do...THEN he thinks he sees movement in a bedroom no, you must report the facts correctly, it wasn't J who first saw 'Ralph Neville' (if it was him) at he bedroom window, and moving about in the bedroom. It was 'PC Myall' a fact confirmed by PS Bews at one time or another. So you have got that part wrong, because Jeremy has confirmed it to me himself on many occasions that it was PC Myall who drew PS Saxby's and Jeremy's attention to the bloke in the bedroom...but leaves others to sex  that's a bit unfair. It would have been the easiest thing in the world for J to have lied, and said it was his sister, or his mother, or his dad, or as the case may be, Ralph Neville, or a complete stranger. The main thing was, is that it wasn't Jeremy moving around inside 'that' bedroom. What is more, When I asked Jeremy whether or not the anshuzt rifle was resting at the side of that 'same' bedroom window at the time they all saw the person there, Jeremy emphatically said, 'no', the rifle wasn't there at the bedroom window by that stage...and put a name to what was "a trick of light" I do not accept PS Bews  account by which he dishonestly describes the sighting of the unidentified' man, as nothing more than 'a trick of light. Bews  knows that that is 'not true'. How do I know that what he has since claimed to have been 'a trick of light, when he knows full well that in those moments that he and the others were observing the person standing to the side of the bedroom window at first, then walking briskly across the opening of the same window? I know Bews  explanation is a dishonest one, because a part from the fact that he quite literally crapped in his trousers whilst dashing out of the grounds in a bid to return to the patrol car that was parked up in pages lane (CA07) manned by PS Saxby, Bews  passed a message to the control room about what they had just witnessed. I understand that in that radio message that Bews  described the person they had all seen, as an 'unidentified' male, who could possibly be armed with a gun. When Bews mentioned this, he added that the 'son' had not been able to identify the person they had been observing as his dad, or any other member of his family, and that as such he requested that the firearm officers be deployed to the incident, because it might turn into a siege...which miraculously becomes "an unidentified person the term, ' unidentified' male, was introduced by the cops, themselves, so please do not try to suggest that Jeremy somehow made them treat that person as 'unidentified'. Because by the time the 'Major incident Register' came into being on 7th September, 1985, PC Myall must surely have known what Ralph Bamber  looked like, and what June and Sheila had both looked like, by that stage, to be able to have identified the 'unidentified' male, as Ralph Bamber, or not?...................."
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1010 on: May 19, 2016, 07:36:PM »
jb said that his father had phoned him and said shelia had gone mad and had hold of a gun.so  the theory of a male in the bedroom window is stone dead.common sense

Exactly!
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1011 on: May 19, 2016, 07:43:PM »
once again i ask how did the person in the window leave whf while police were outside witch route did he exit from .without leaving a trace .whf was locked and secure when police broke in .bamber supporters please

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1012 on: May 19, 2016, 07:45:PM »
once again i ask how did the person in the window leave whf while police were outside witch route did he exit from .without leaving a trace .whf was locked and secure when police broke in .bamber supporters please

I have also asked this but to no avail - there is no answer because it didn't happen.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1013 on: May 19, 2016, 08:14:PM »
At one stage J himself was convinced that Ralph Neville might have played a role in the killing of three generations of the Bamber family...
was it after he realised people were not convinced sc did it .i think so

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1014 on: May 19, 2016, 08:19:PM »



But Jeremy had no idea of what Dr Ferguson had on file about Sheila. We've also been told that Sheila wasn't remotely interested in learning how to load a gun. I wasn't aware ANY police person knew RN well enough to identify him as being "the bloke in the bedroom". It was far better for Jeremy NOT to identify anyone in particular, but leave it to others..................I'm certain there's some sort of book in you, somewhere Mike, but when it comes to creating an authentic scenario with enough teeth to proclaim Jeremy innocent..............................

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1015 on: May 19, 2016, 08:26:PM »

But Jeremy had no idea of what Dr Ferguson had on file about Sheila. We've also been told that Sheila wasn't remotely interested in learning how to load a gun. I wasn't aware ANY police person knew RN well enough to identify him as being "the bloke in the bedroom". It was far better for Jeremy NOT to identify anyone in particular, but leave it to others..................I'm certain there's some sort of book in you, somewhere Mike, but when it comes to creating an authentic scenario with enough teeth to proclaim Jeremy innocent..............................
thats witty jane.it was only a head appearing from the side as mike says but not only did jb see it but also identified it as a male the 2 trained to identify things for a living made no such obersavation.the 2 police officers

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1016 on: May 19, 2016, 08:36:PM »
once again i ask how did the person in the window leave whf while police were outside witch route did he exit from .without leaving a trace .whf was locked and secure when police broke in .bamber supporters please

He was beamed up to the Starship Enterprise.   ;D

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1017 on: May 19, 2016, 08:40:PM »
I paid particular attention in trying to establish the timing of calls made by J to Julie Mugford, that morning. He could not be specific as to the actual times these calls had been made, he could only refer me to times other people had said those two calls had been made. However, I did manage to extract the 'sequence' with which these calls had been made. I can say that J did 'not' call Mugford on the first occasion that morning, until 'after' his 'dad' had called him, and his attempt to contact Witham police station, but before J contacted cops at Chelmsford in the form of his conversation with PC West timed at 3.36am. He made a second call to Mugford after leaving the scene in the company of a cop before 5.30pm. In so much as the claim by Mugford that when J called her on that first occasion, he allegedly told her ' all is going well', my understanding is that she misunderstood what J had actually said on that occasion, because she was tired and high on drugs. What J actually said, was something along the lines ' Oh, I feel like hell'...
This is hard to swallow again..

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1018 on: May 19, 2016, 08:41:PM »
He was beamed up to the Starship Enterprise.   ;D
thats the best answer to that one john :))witty

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1019 on: May 19, 2016, 09:51:PM »
Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!

Wrong.  Bews said Myalls said "I think I saw someone".  Skip about first 3 mins.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/video/2011/jan/30/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-video

You don't believe the silencer Caroline.  So I assume you think corruption noble is ok?  Why did everyone need to make up the silencer if the case against Jeremy was strong?  I will start a thread on this tomorrow. 

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