What makes Bamber innocent?

[Jane]

People DO have selective memory's if things don't go their way.

Which must include Jeremy............... unless he chose to withhold such important information for his own reasons.

[lookout]

Which must include Jeremy............... unless he chose to withhold such important information for his own reasons.

No. There's a difference between what little you know--------as in JB's case where he must have been puzzled as to why he was arrested in the first place,and those who spouted verbal diarrhoea to get him convicted.
When anyone is put on the spot about something they know nothing about,they are naturally hesitant, others had it all worked out before JB opened his mouth.
Criminals are always one step ahead and invariably have their " speeches " ready.

[Jane]

No. There's a difference between what little you know--------as in JB's case where he must have been puzzled as to why he was arrested in the first place,and those who spouted verbal diarrhoea to get him convicted.
When anyone is put on the spot about something they know nothing about,they are naturally hesitant, others had it all worked out before JB opened his mouth.
Criminals are always one step ahead and invariably have their " speeches " ready.

But it still remains that Jeremy -and others- allegedly saw "an unknown person  (later identified by Mile as being Ralph Nevill) moving around in the bedroom" and not one of them reported it. It can't be said that Jeremy knew nothing about it if he was there and allegedly witnessed it for himself.

[Caroline]

People DO have selective memories if things don't go their way.

They certainly DO! 

[Caroline]

Wasn't it Mayall/Meyall who saw the moving figure,when along with Jeremy,they had to duck down out of sight ? Wasn't it after that sighting that the firearms team were engaged ? Why,before this happened,did it take so long in bringing in the firearms team for a so-called siege ?

Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!

[lookout]

 It must be heartening for you to always give the right answers------------considering you were there ?!    And to be so adamant about it too.
Maybe if you followed some EP statements once in a while instead of making out that JB's the liar in all this then perhaps you'd see past those blinkers of yours. That's always supposing you believe every word of EP and other cohorts.

[Jane]

Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!

Caroline, the possibility presents itself of throwing RUBBISH out there to see if there are any takers who are prepared to believe it. Their belief apparently turning RUBBISH into fact.

[lookout]

Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!

How bloody spiteful !
Don't you dare tell me to take a good long hard look at myself. At least I don't suffer from paranoia !!

[sami]

Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement. They simply had the jitters (spurned on no doubt by Jeremy), you can imagine all sorts in those kinds of situations. However, here we have possible movement metamorphosing into a named individual who we are led to believe was allowed to leave a siege situation without any kind of questioning about what was going on inside the farm house. Complete RUBBISH! If anyone believes this, you really need to take a good long hard look at yourself!

oh so very true caroline

[David1819]

Only Jeremy has said it was a figure, it was described at the time as movement.

Stg Bews once let slip that is was PC Myall who spotted the movement 

[Caroline]

Stg Bews once let slip that is was PC Myall who spotted the movement

I know that, but he has said both of then said it - why would that mean it was defo Myall and not Jeremy? We simply can't be sure who it was. Also, 'movement' is not the same as seeing a 'figure'. It's important to quite what people actually said and not put your own slant on it. That happens a lot here!

[sami]

I know that, but he has said both of then said it - why would that mean it was defo Myall and not Jeremy? We simply can't be sure who it was. Also, 'movement' is not the same as seeing a 'figure'. It's important to quite what people actually said and not put your own slant on it. That happens a lot here!

the dog was still moving about upstairs imo and movement may have been caused by shadows made by the dog.makes sense to me

[Caroline]

the dog was still moving about upstairs imo and movement may have been caused by shadows made by the dog.makes sense to me

I think they were just spooked or Jeremy said it, he said it on purpose.

[lookout]

the dog was still moving about upstairs imo and movement may have been caused by shadows made by the dog.makes sense to me

What ? The dog wasn't that high off the floor,how could it cast shadows at the window ?

[sami]

I think they were just spooked or Jeremy said it, he said it on purpose.

yes that makes sense sometimes if you convince someone you saw movement they may well start believing you did. good ploy by jb